[karachi-Friends] Re: [apfn-1] Fw: Who is the Son of Man?

Sir,

1. "Son of man" is the fictive Jesus, of Nazareth, which did not exist until 4th century, is in fact of Antioch. There is many errors in your report, Emperor Titus made his war against Jews on 70 DC, not against Christians, and destroyed Jerusalem... 

Terminology of: Jesus = Yesus

Is in Greek until to day is pronounced: Yesaus

 

Deus (pronounces ['die us', s is mute]) is the Latin word for "god" or "deity". The Latin words deus and dīvus, and Greek διϝος = "divine", are descended from pagan Proto-Indo-European  deiwos = "sky Fire-Sun", from the same root Dyēus, the reconstructed chief god of the Proto-Indo-European pantheon, not Horus, Chrishna or Buddha…also a cognate of the Greek Ζευς (Zeus). By the era of Classical Latin it was a general noun referring to any number of SUN divine figures. "Die" means sky or celestial. Than the suffix "us" is the Sun or fire, at the end of a proper name, indicates "divinity".

In French the word "Dieu" (God ( is formed of "Die" & "u" origin of Latin "Die wos", pronounces exactly the same, means Sky Fire = SUN

 

(Yacob = Jacob;   Yoseph = Joseph;   Ben Yamin = Ben Jamin;   Yessie = Jessie…)

In Semitic the "Y", as first letter of a word, is substituted in western languages into "J", so the name of prophet Yesa, peace unto Him, neither Isa nor Issa! 

 

Jesus=Yesus= Yesaus=Yesa -us=Yesa -Fire of sky or sun of sky \ of Latin of pagan origin "Die wos" pronounce Die us = Die u = Dieu , in French =God - where (Die means celestial, us means fire, the mute S is not written).

Yesa - us = Yesa-Fire \ of sky = Yesa the sun at that time it was the great Fire of sky.

 

Jesus in Greek of today is: Ιησούς six letters as: Yesaus

 

As cults of pagans Pharaonic …Hellenic, Roman emperors

 Horus,  Zeus, Deus,  Augustus, Titus, Bacchus, Venus...

 

Jesus is "Yesa Sun" of God

So generous Qura'an is right to call him"Yesa"

 

 

"Begotten" means that Jesus is a "created being" because only someone who had a start existing in flesh in time can be "begotten"

 

 

In Christian astrologic knowledge terminology before 2000 years ,

 

Adam is

Son of God, the human first creation, before Him stars …the sun.

Jesus is

The only begotten Son, the Firstborn of every creation, human or not human, Jesus is the incarnation of the sun before the sun there was nothing

 

Genesis 1:16. God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.

 

(Great light: Sun: Jesus – Lesser light: the croissant moon: Mary – Stars: 144000 virgin Jews and saints)

 

The great light: SON OF GOD

The lesser light: Mother OF GOD

 

 

Note: Prophet Yesa, peace unto Him, as Prophet not a God, son of a virgin was example to sons of Israel,- see generous Qura'an 43:57-67- but Rabbi "Saint" Paul (Pol-Apollo- Apollonius) and his Antioch group, & Emperor Constantine's priests falsified His call into a Sun worship, as the entire world 's worship included Jews, but Samaria's Hebrew and Sabiens, the followers of Prophets Sheth & John son of Zachariah, Arab Christians and all Muslims are worshippers of Allah, be exalted.

 

2. The name Christ is in fact an attribute of Krishna sungod of Hinduism:

 

Sense of Jesus attribute: Christ

 

Of this Brahmanien site

Dialog between a Hindu priest & a Catholic priest about the "Greek word Christos"

 

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=21364582&blogId=145079771

 

 

When an Hindu person calls on Krishna, he often says, Krsta. Krsta is a Sanskrit word meaning attraction. So when we address God as Christ, Krsta, or Krishna we indicate the same all-attractive Supreme Personality of Godhead. When Jesus said, Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be Thy name, the name of God was Krsta or Krishna , do you agree ?

 

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (11:10-05)
Read: more:http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=21364582&blogId=145079771#ixzz0zEFXLGWr

 

 

 

 

Srila Prabhupada: What is the meaning of word: Christ?

 

Father Emmanuel: Christ comes from the Greek word Christos, meaning "the anointed one".

              (Messiah is anointed one, in Judaism. Christ is the attribute, not christos, which is a "proper Greek name" of any christian)

 

Srila Prabhupada: Christos is the Greek version of the word Krishna.

 

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Father Emmanuel: This is very interesting.

 

 

 

Srila Prabhupada: When an Indian person calls on Krishna , he often says, "Krsta". Krsta is a Sanskrit word meaning "attraction". So when we address God as "Christ", "Krsta", or "Krishna" we indicate the same all-attractive Supreme Personality of Godhead. When Jesus said, "Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be Thy name," the name of God was Krsta or Krishna. Do you agree?

 

 

Father Emmanuel: I think Jesus, as the son of God, has revealed to us the actual name of God: Christ. We can call God "Father", but if we want to address Him by His actual name, we have to say "Christ".

 

Srila Prabhupada: Christ" is another way of saying Krsta, and Krsta is another way of pronouncing Krishna, the name of God. Jesus said that one should glorify the name of God, but yesterday I heard one theologian say that God has no name -- that we can call Him only "Father". A son may call his father "Father", but the father also has a specific name. Similarly, God is the general name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, whose specific name is Krishna. Therefore, whether you call God "Christ", "Krsta", or "Krishna ", ultimately you are addressing the same Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Father Emmanuel: Yes, if we speak of God's actual name, then we must say, "Christos". In our religion we have the Trinity: the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We believe we can know the name of God only by revelation from the son of God. Jesus Christ revealed the name of the Father, and therefore we take the name "Christ" as the revealed name of God.

 

Srila Prabhupada: Actually, it doesn't matter -- Krishna or Christ -- the name is the same. The main point is to follow the injunctions of the Vedic scriptures that recommend chanting the name of God in this age. The easiest way is to chant themaha-mantra:Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare. Rama and Krishna are names of God and Hare is the energy of God. So when we chant the maha-mantra we address God along with His energy. This energy is of two kinds, the spiritual and the material. At present we are in the clutches of the material energy. Therefore we pray to Krishna that He may kindly deliver us from the service of the material energy and accept us into the service of the spiritual energy. This is our whole philosophy. Hare Krishna means, "O energy of God, O God ( Krishna ), please engages me in your service." It is our nature to render service. Somehow or other we have come to the service of material things, but when this service is transformed into the service of the spiritual energy, then our life is perfect. To practice bhakti-yoga [loving service to God] means to become free from designations like Hindu, Muslim, Christian, this or that, and simply to serve God. We have created Christian, Hindu and Mohammedan religion, but when we come to a religion without designations, in which we don't think we are Hindus or Christians or Mohammedans, and then we can speak of pure religion, or bhakti.

Read more:http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=21364582&blogId=145079771#ixzz0zEH7hJiJ

 

 http://www.4shared.com/file/154125867/3f5e8d4e/002-Allah-Dieu-God__Christiani.html

 

Church says that the word: "Christ" is Greek, because the people of Antioch called, the group of "St." Paul for disdain, by that name, which means: worshipers the crucified!

This is a lie: because all nations, under authority of Rome worshiped a crucified, a Sun of god, of Babel, of pharaohs, of Hindu, of Persia and Emperors of Rome ... Etc., even sons of Israel, worshiped the Sun, see (Ezekiel 8:12-17). Only Hebrews of Samaria worshiped Allah, be exalted.

Added to it later, a literal word of social level (Christos) and uttered: Christo, as we all know, it is a proper Greek name of a person, and not of Jesus. To every nation in the world, there is social classes, for each, in the Hellenic & Roman era, is:

3. Class with "es" as:

Archimedes, Onuses … (High common people)

 

2. Class with "os"as:

 

Christos-Perecletos -Spartacos-Marcos-Polos-Matthios (Marco Polo) (nobles)

 

1. Class with "us"as:

Horus-Zeus-Venus-Apollonius-Titus-Augustus-Jesus ... (God's Sun)

 

So, "Christ" is copied exactly of Hindu, it is their pagan sungod.

 

For more details about meaning of suffix "us" please see item:

003- http://www.4shared.com/file/154125867/3f5e8d4e/002-Allah-Dieu-God__Christiani.html

 

They rely on the ignorance of the Bible's readers

(In name of religion, we believe every thing)

 

Please read about the real Messiah's name, peace unto Him.

 

007- http://www.4shared.com/file/93957365/29138892/007-The_Holy_Divine_Proper_.html

 

Arch. Marwan Yafi

 

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Buy the book. You might learn something. You know, .. like... FACTS.     --- On Fri, 7/29/11, Caesar's Messiah <info@caesarsmessiah.com> wrote: From: Caesar's Messiah <info@caesarsmessiah.com>Subject: Who is the Son of Man?To: Date: Friday, July 29, 2011, 4:18 AM True Identity of Jesus Christ Is this email not displaying correctly?View it in your browser. Thank you for your interest in "Caesar's Messiah"!  Below is a free report written by Joseph Atwill, the author of "Caesar's Messiah", which reveals the True Identity of Jesus Christ. The most important discovery presented in my book "Caesar's Messiah" is that Jesus Christ is a fictional literary character and not a historical person. In Greek – the language in which the Gospels were written – Jesus means Savior and Christ means the Messiah, and the title of Christ was already familiar to Jews long before the supposed time of Jesus. Further, there'd never been any archaeologic evidence of Jesus Christ that had ever been discovered – the only way we really know about this individual is through the Gospels. Though the Gospels seem to be a history they are actually a little known genre of fictional literature called typology. Typology is simply creating stories by basing one character upon another character from a different story – much like an archetype. Once someone understands that the Gospels are typological literature, it is easy to see that virtually every episode of Jesus' ministry was based upon events that occurred during the Roman Caesar Titus' military campaign through Judea. The typology linking Jesus to Titus in the Gospels is not especially hard to spot and the fact that it has been overlooked for 2,000 years is inexplicable. This oversight is particularly strange in that the Gospels set up a direct connection between Jesus and Titus with prophecies concerning the Son of Man.  While Christians believe that the character in the Gospels was divine, this is not what Jesus Christ actually claimed. Jesus never said that he was the Messiah, and in fact went out of his way to avoid saying so. Jesus stated that the "Son of Man" – a title for the Jewish Messiah that comes from the prophecies of Daniel – would come before the generation he spoke to passed away. Since Jews of this era saw a generation as lasting forty years, what Jesus was claiming was that the Son of Man would appear within forty years from the date of his death on Passover 33 CE. Jesus also made clear predictions as to what would happen when the Son of Man came. He prophesied that during the Son of Man's visitation Galilean towns would be destroyed, Jerusalem would be encircled with a wall, and the Temple would be razed.  In trying to make sense out of what Jesus said, Christians have interpreted this visitation by the Son of Man as the "second coming" of Jesus Christ. But there is a major problem with this belief – Jesus didn't show up within the time span he predicted. Christians have tried to get around this problem by claiming that Jesus would come some time in the future, but this is clearly illogical. Jesus was very precise that the Son of Man would come within forty years from his ministry. So who was the Son of Man that Jesus predicted and Christians have worshipped for 2,000 years? The true name of the Christ – the Messiah – is Titus Flavius. The only person in history who accomplished the predictions that Jesus made concerning the Son of Man – and he did it precisely within the given time frame – was Titus Flavius. Titus did destroy the very Galilean towns Jesus predicted. He did encircle Jerusalem with a wall and he razed the Temple exactly as Jesus foresaw, leaving "not one stone atop the other". In fact, Titus' campaign ended with the destruction of Masada on Passover 73 C.E., exactly forty years from Jesus' crucifixion. Moreover, Jesus' predictions concerning the Son of Man were echoed by all of Titus' court historians. Each one maintained that Titus was the Christ, the Messiah which the prophecies in Jewish literature foresaw – the same prophecies Jesus cited in his predictions about the coming of the Son of Man.  In light of all this, the discovery that all of the events of Jesus' ministry were based upon Titus' campaign should really not be surprising. Particularly since the first Christian Pope and all of the first saints of Christianity were members of Titus' imperial court. What is surprising is that Christians and scholars have overlooked something as obvious as the fact that the Gospels proclaim the same thing that the Flavian imperial court historians did – that Titus is the Christ.  So now you know the true identity of the Son of Man. If you want to know the true identity of the Jewish Messiah who was crucified on the cross – whose name was not Jesus – I have devoted an entire chapter to this character in my book "Caesar's Messiah". I invite you to pick up a copy, and feel free to discuss these ideas with me on my blog: http://caesarsmessiah.com/blog/Our last newsletter can be viewed here:  Caesar's Messiah Paperback Book Released   follow on Twitter | friend on Facebook | forward to a friend  Copyright © 2011 Caesar's Messiah, All rights reserved.You are receiving this email because you opted in at our website www.caesarsmessiah.com.Our mailing address is:1187 Coast Village Road, Suite 312Montecito, CA 93108 view email in browser

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