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Subject: RE: WHY WAHABIS ARE SILENT?
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Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 12:43 AM
| We also admit that during the war against Moawyyiya and agaisnt Hazrat Ayesha (RA) , Hazrat Ali was on Haqq.
Dear Tahseen Shah Saheb, it is good that you provided part answers to Anita Josephs' writeup, and thats it that I would have done. But be careful in saying Hazrat A'li was on haq alone, that implies that our mother Ayesha RaziAllaho A'nha was not on Haq or Ameer Mu'awiyah RaziAllaho A'nhu were not on Haq. All of them were on Haq but the Ijtihad of Hazrat A'li was correct and he got 2 virtues, whereas our mother and Hazrat Ameer each got one virtue, Rizwanallahi Ta'ala A'nhum Ajmay'een. They fought because they had difference in their ijtihad. Hazrat A'li took khilafat in very uncertain circumstances to pin point the killers, of Hazrat Osman Ghani RaziAllaho A'nhu, in his jama'ah and to put them into the process of a'dl and to punish them if found guilty. He thought this prosecution should be kept in pending to take care of the matters of urgency. This was his ijtihad. Our mother and Hazrat Ameer thought that was the right time and demanded an urgent action, and this was their ijtihad that caused skirmishes in the battle field. Later events proved that Hazrat Alis' ijtihad was correct. No arrest were made nor the resources were looted, but they all dispersed amicably in peace. when Moawiyya came in power then the wealth was going for the use of darbari people and khalifah not on poor people. We use the word hazrat because he was a sahabi. Other than that we admit all the wrong he has done.
Tahseen Shah, your first sentence is absurd, for, Rasoolullah Sallallaho A'laihi Wa Sallam had reposed confidence in each of his companions that they were A'ADIL, and Hazrat Ameer was one of them to waste the rsources you deem he did. You need not be polemical and apologetic to Anita or any shia else to admit what Hazrat Ameer did was wrong, otherwise you are found blaming Hazrat Imam Hasan RaziAllaho A'nhu to have transferred the amanah of the most revered khilafat to a dishonest man.
We also believe that if someone has done something wrong, now they are gone and if they have done something wrong they are in hell.
Sahabas being A'ADIL, you think they are in hell?? NAY, they are not. This is because Allah stood guarantee for them by saying RAZIALLAHO ANHUM WA RAZOO ANHU, IN SOORAH WAQI'AH, go and read it. Allah has issued many more guarantees for them besides being pleased with them and that they are pleased with Allah. One should be very careful while saying adversely on Sahabah A'laihim-ur-Rizwan, for, Rasoolullah Sallallaho A'laihi Wa Sallam warned his ummah of extra care, according to the following Hadees: ALLAH ALLAH FI ASHABI, LA TATTAKHIZOOHUM GHARADAM MIM BA'DI, FA MAN AHABBAHUM FA BI HUBBI AHABBAHUM, WA MAN ABGHAZAHUM FA BI BUGHZI ABGHAZAHUM. Fear Allah about my companions and don't blame them because of your taint against them, for, whoever loves them it is because of my love in his heart, and whoever malighns them it is because he has malice about me in his heart.
--- On Sun, 9/23/12, Tahseen Shah <tah67@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Tahseen Shah <tah67@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: WHY WAHABIS ARE SILENT?
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Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 1:00 PM
As Salam Alaikum, Sunni Aqeedah is as follows. We all , we all condemn yazid for disrespecting Families of Ahlul bait. We also admit that Yazidis took the women in bazaar. And we condemn and it makes our blood boil. We also admit that during the war against Moawyyiya and agaisnt Hazrat Ayesha (RA) , Hazrat Ali was on Haqq. We also said that After Ali (AS) when Moawiyya came in power then the wealth was going for the use of darbari people and khalifah not on poor people. We use the word hazrat because he was a sahabi. Other than that we admit all the wrong he has done. We also believe that if someone has done something wrong, now they are gone and if they have done something wrong they are in hell. There is no room to read tabarrah. Tabarrah is a poison and it makes one's own health deteriorate. Nafarat in our own system against anyone is not healthy. We also admit that imams of Shias are the imam of the whole ummah and we love them and respect them more than anything else. We took those sunni imams in fiqh because the books of Imam Jafer and Imam Baqir were not remained reliable due to thr mix up by rawafiz. Because of rawafiz and Khawarij the mix up in hadith and riwayat was so much that muhadetheen had to work hard for 500 years to class and grade all these ahadiths and riwayaat. Otherwise to us and to imams of Sunnis, those imams are much higher in ilm and darajah. No sunni denies that. Among Sunnis there is no talk of nafrat, and disrespect. I am trying to do tahqeeq and I do not sleep at night. Sometimes the whole day is gone and no khayal of food. If I can do tahqeeq like this then what kind of hard work those people would have done. Deen and ilm is an amanah and a very serious business. We can not lie and we can not spread news without tahqeeq. This is sunni way. This was the answer of that poetry you have quoted. Please do not paint all sunnis for disrespecting ahlul bait. Those were kharijis not sunnis. Now about the second issue. Why Wahabis are silent. First question, the photos that are given where people are burning their own relatives buildings, taking their own jealous out in the name of protest for Porphet (SAAW). is this the right thing. Is this kind of protest good for any one??? If any one wanted to kill his rich relative, all he has to do is come out of his house and say this man was insulting Prophet (SAAW) and people on the street go and kill him on the spot without asking any question. ( Happened many times in Pakistan). Is it a fair practice. Is this a healthy love?? It happens once a month in Pakistan. So if there is no such protest in Saudi Arabai then wahabis should be praised not condemned. I am a fair person and I can not turn my eyes from insaaf. We all ( Shia, Sunni, Wahabis) blame each other for not having love for Prophet (SAWAW). We all do. Lets find out who does and he does not. Just after the incidence of 9/11, in New York, they made a dirty movie about Prophet (SAW) and played in cinema of NEW YORK. Muslims ( Shia, Sunni, Wahabi) all of them were standing in front of the cinema with the protest boards in their hands. But right in front of them white people were going in the theater and after watching the movie , they were coming out right in front of these Muslim. No Muslim could do more. Where was the jazbah of shahadat. Do we have the right to say that other group doesn't love our Aqa (SAAW). We all talk in our drawing room and that is it. Salman Rushdie is still alive ( by the way). We must think about all these points and observe deeply and shall not blame each other. Life is too beautiful. Enjoy it with LOVE. Love is the most powerful thing and it has a miraculous effect. The whole universe is running with this force. Hatred destroys it. Go out side and see how the Sun and moon playing with each other and how stars are witnessing it. There is love and romance in every particle of this universe. Enjoy it. The day people start seeing this there will be no tabarrah left. Tahseen Shah
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:57:18 -0700 From: zaheerhusainkhan@yahoo.com Subject: RE: WHY WAHABIS ARE SILENT? To: tah67@hotmail.com; Fourteenstars-owner@yahoogroups.com; toronto_shia_community@yahoogroups.com CC: zaheerhusain@gmail.com; nazar_abbas_rizvi@hotmail.com; naqvi_1927@yahoo.co.in This is not against any sect of Islam, region or country, it is against false writers of History and the fabricators of narrations attributed to the Rasool e Akram (saaws). اب مسلمانوں کو عزت کا جلال آیا ہے اپنی کھوئے ہی غیرت پیے ملال آیا ہے در بدر آل محمّد کو پھرانے والو آج توہین رسالت کا خیال آیا ہے انیتا جوسف
As Salaam Dear Sisters and Brothers in Islam.
How sweetly and truthfully Anita Joseph has said that in her fine rubai . If you analyse the matters of the happenings of today and the yesterdays, dushmanan e Islam blaspheming Hazrat Mohammad (saaws), the Prophet of Islaam , you will find much of the materials can be found in the books of the so called muslim majority itself . I least want to repeat these blasphemies here once again but have to say extremely regretfully and with all apologies and regrets , naouzbillah who said the Rasool e Kareem married in his fifties, a kid child of 6 years and consummated at nine . Why ? Why this evil fraud , modern researches , calculation and counter checkings of the various events of the pasts, prove beyond doubt that at the time of Ayesha's marriage to Mohammad (saaws) ( her 2nd after bethrotal with Jubair son of Mutim) who refused to take her home when her father wanted to leave her to the care of her husband when he himself wanted to go to Ethiopia , she was 21 years ( at least not less than 20 as per M A Aqqad of Egypt ) So why all these stories of playing with dolls , witnessing street shows,dances and Tamashas and all (ma'az Allah) .Morever this is beyond the sensivities of an ordinary person , while He (saaws) was supposed to be a role model for all the believers on earth . Then in the Saheehain there are inumerable ahadees which you would never like to reproduce .Leave aside the Prophet of Islam , If some one says your father or grand father had the urge , needed to ease himself and stood at a refuse dump and eased himself standing ( in full view of the passer by ) , how would you feel to hear it . .How filthy it will sound that a friend visited your house and your father was at ease showing parts of his bare thais and welcomed the guests . And your mother in the condition of junub or mensus , stroking your fathers head on her thys. MazAllah Nauzbillah but such fictitious vulger stories are in abundance and have often found a place in the saheehain . A muslim , I don't know from what maslak he is in a recent mail, blamed Maula Ali (a s ) that he was interested to accept the proposal of Abu Jehl's daughter but his wife was very upset , angered and the Rasool e Kareem (saaws) said , he can do it only after divorcing my daughter . Even for them at least he is a truely guided Khalifah if not the first atleast the fourth . What a shallow Eemaan or rather completely lack of it and a deep rooted jealousy and enemity towards Ahlebayt (athaar a.s) Will you believe and can a Messenger of Allah will utter such words nauzobillah that '' the moment a devout starts calling Azaan , Iblees takes a flight and in the process makes a loud release of air ,( may be with enormous foul smell due to upset tummy) so that the person confuses and forgets what he was reciting . The list is endless my very dear friends , aunthentic materials were already been provided , the enemy of Islaam had only to add some chilli spices to bring the effect and then the reaction is you protest in such a way that you kill your own people , destroy your own national properties and loot your own brothers and sister and see your reverend cleric of the masjid find a mentally disturbed minor girl and put the blasphemy law on the child and provoke and motivate the people to kill her because she is blasphemous Christian . I call this all state of affairs '' abu horairah's effect '. Zaheer Husain Khan FODDER WAS THERE ALREADY ENOUGH ZIONISTS ONLY SUPPLIED THE FUEL | | |
Salam Alaikum,
I thought that these crazy people in the photos are wahabis. Because these people can not be a well wisher of Islam or Prophet (sallal laho Alaihe wasallam). These idiots are burning their own buildings and burning their own city. They are helping Jews by destroying their own house and also by proving that these muslims are terrorists.
Jews will make even more movies like that because then Muslims will harm themselves. What a gloomy picture of Muslims these are.
But you are proving these are not wahabis then who are they. Shias??? This is very pathetic. And you are endorsing it???. Are you for real???
Also another questions. Do wahabis or Ahle Sunnah or Saudi Arabia ever ask you people how come Iran is not protesting. Why Shias are quiet. Why shias are doing this or that. Why shias are not helping sunnis. Why Northern Allaiance did this. Because Sunnis know that nothing better will come out of Shias and shias will always back stab Sunnis. That is why Sunnis don't even count on Shia world. Get that!
Sunni world does not even count on shias. Neither they give importance to Iran nor they give importance to shia books. That is why they do not even think what Iran or shias are doing or what not. Shias act to always send these kind of emails against Sunnis and Saudi Arabia and it clearly proves that even though Shias call Sunni , Yazidis, Kafir, Munafiq but still Shias can not live or survive alone. Shias live in the shadow of Sunnis
Thanks for proving my point honey.
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Asif Hassan / AFP / GettyImages By Alex Rodriguez | 7:41 a.m. Thousands clash with police in the nation's capital and several other cities in one of the worst waves of violence to hit the nation in recent years. Photos Quite understandable. Wonder, how does it help backward muslim countries with such strength and depth in faith in Islam which rely heavily on western countries for monetary and other help, which is not really used toward progress of their own people..... And how come Saudi Arabia-WAHABIS is not raising hell with West, like other Islamic countries are rioting, killing and destroying.
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