Friday 3 June 2011

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جريـــدة القــنديــل الاقتصــادية الأســـبوعية :

إعداد د.محمد وائل سعيد حبش

دكتوراه في الأسواق المالية

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دائماً ما كان يعيق الحركية الاقتصادية والمالية لدينا قصورها عن متابعة المستجدات على أرض الواقع  فالتصريحات تأتي معللة للحدث الفائت وليست مرتبة و مهندسة للمرحلة القادمة وهذا المرض العضال الذي تحدثت عنه سابقاً ودائماً ما يعود وتظهر أعراضه بعدة أشكال وبعدة مواقف فاعتلال السوق المالي المحلي ليس بنيوياً بقدر ما هو إدارياً وفكرياً على المستوى الاستراتيجي بعيد المدى  .

ورغم إقراري أن العامل النفسي وهو الخوف قد لعب الدور الأكبر في هبوط السوق المالي إلا أنه لا ينبغي أن نتعامل مع هذا العامل بنوع من الاستخفاف أو أن نحصر حلولنا بتوليد العامل النفسي المضاد وهو التفاؤل المبني على تصريحات يعتمد فيها الضرب على الصدور و مسح الذقون فحتى العامل النفسي يكون مبنياً في جوهره على حقائق اقتصادية مالية ومخاطر تزيد من صعوبة التوقع والتنبؤات المستقبلية ، أما أن نتعامل مع المستثمرين بسذاجة بإطلاق التصريحات التي نظن أنها ستقلب الطاولة والموقف فهذا نوع من العبثية والارتجالية الذي لا تعرفه المالية في علومها ومفاهيمها .

وعلى الرغم من أن التفاؤل علامة على الصحة النفسية العامة إلا أنها لا تبدو معللة في عالم الاستثمار فإن لم تكن واقعياً بما يكفي للتنبؤ بما يمكن التنبؤ به فسينتهي الحال إلى فقدان المستثمرين بوزن و مصداقية هذه التصريحات فلا يتجاوز الأمر بعدئذ سواء مفعول الحبوب المسكنة التي فقدت فاعليتها على مدار الاستخدام المتكرر لها .

على ما يبدو فإنني بت محكوماً بالعيش مع المفاجأت اليومية عندما تنطلق التصريحات بأن أزمة سوق دمشق للأوراق المالية قد انتهت وأن ليس هناك داع للقيام بأي اجراءات إضافية باعتبار أنه لم يعد هناك بالأصل أزمة !؟؟ لأنني إن كنت أريد أن أعلن بداية أزمة أو نهايتها فالحكم هنا للأرقام وللمؤشرات ولا أظن أن مؤشر دمشق للأوراق المالية يقف ضدي في هذه المسألة بل ندع القارىء والمستثمر يلق نظرة سريعة على المؤشر لنتأكد أن تلك الأزمة التي انتهت هل يقصد بها في سوق دمشق للأوراق المالية أم في سوق آخر منتعش ؟!  

وبالافتراض الجدلي بأن الأزمة انتهت وانتصار أبطال السوق على المؤامرة التي تهدف إلى زعزعته فهل هذا ينفي إتخاذ إجراءات تمنع عودة الأزمة أو تلطف من آثارها في حال عودتها  فلم نسمع عن فكرة تأسيس مكتب إعلامي لإدارة سوق دمشق للأوراق المالية يتكلم عن مستجداتها بل تأتي التصريحات نتيجة اجتهادات إعلامية  كما لم نسمع بإعادة دراسة الحدود السعرية التي تسابق الجميع لرفعها والتي استغرقت في أسواق أخرى سنين طويلة لرفعها بل بعض منها عاد وقام بتضييق الحدود السعرية ولم يتناهى إلى أسماعنا أنباء عن عقد ندوة عامة لصغار المساهمين أو اجتماع عام لكبار المتداولين التي يشكلون نصف حجم التداول في السوق ولا يتجاوزون الخمسين متداولاً . 

 والغريب أن نسمع عن جهود مستمرة لزيادة الوعي ونشر ثقافة السوق لمواجهة هذه الأزمة إلا أنني أتلفت يميناً وشمالاً بحثاً عن هذه الجهود الحثيثة في نشر هذا الوعي الذي دائماً ما يغيب الرقم عنه في إحصاء من يملكون المعرفة الأساسية عن السوق عن الذين يجهلونه تماماً  فالبديهي أن تكون حملات التوعية في الأوقات التي يبتعد بها المستثمرون عن السوق لاستغلال بحث المستثمرين عن أخطائهم وثغراتهم وتلافيها عند عودة السوق للنشاط .

 وإن كانت الجهات الرسمية  تصرح أن انخفاض السوق في الشهر الماضي غير حقيقي بسبب انخفاض حجم التداول فلماذا لم يتم رفع الحد الأدنى مؤقتاً لتغير السعر السوقي للسهم إلى 2000 سهم بدلاً من 200 سهم في الجلسة الواحدة لكي يكون أكثر استيعاباً ومنطقية لارتفاع سعر السهم وحتى هبوطه !!؟

كما لم يكن مقنعاً تصريحات سابقة بأن الجهات المسؤولة بدأت تقتنع بتمديد فترة زيادة رؤوس أموال البنوك  فهذا الاقتناع إن لم يكن مصحوباً  بقرار يعيد الجدولة الزمنية لزيادة رؤوس أموال البنوك الخاصة وخاصة التي تنخفض فيها كفاءة رأس المال العامل لديها ضمن شروط واعتبارات أكثر دقة وموضوعية فالموضوع لا يعدو في هذه الحالة عن كونه مجرد تصريحات .  

ولا بد لرابطة شركات الوساطة المالية أن يوجه لها عتاباً لأنها نائمة في بحر مشاكلها فلا بيان موحد ولا خطاب منسجم متسق بل تصريحات فردية استعراضية من موظفي الشركات مضمونها ترويج لها أكثر منها مساهمة حقيقية في حماية السوق  .

وإنني دائم التساؤل عن اتفاقيات التعاون التي تم توقيعها مع الأسواق المالية الشرقية والغربية كيف انعكست على سوقنا عندما تعرض لأول أزمة ؟؟

وإن تكلمت سابقاً على حداثة السوق فهو من باب ذكر نقطة قوة للسوق ولكن إن لم تترافق الحداثة الزمنية مع الحداثة الفكرية فموضوع التقهقر والتراجع محكوم بعامل الزمن فقط لتتحول نقطة القوة إلى نقطة تهديد لوجوده وصراعه في ظل تشابكات السوق المالي مع أدوات وأجهزة مالية حكومية حالية .

ولا يسعني سوى أن أختم بمقولة لوالدن هنري ديفيد ثورو بأنك إذا أقمت قلاعك في الهواء فلا ينبغي أن يذهب مجهودك سدى فهذا هو مكانها الطبيعي وكل ماعليك الآن هو أن ترسي قواعدها " فقواعد السوق لدينا تحتاج إلى تمتين وتأطير علمي استراتيجي يمنع زلاتها وانزلاقها إلى هفوات و مواقف قد تزلزل قواعدها فيما بعد فيهجرها سكان القلاع إلى قلاع أخرى .

 

Re: [karachi-Friends] Sahi Tareeqa-e-Namaz and benefits.....

Asslamoaleekum
JazzakAllah for your interest, 

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Aasim Aasim <asem76@hotmail.com> wrote:
Brother Siddiq please provide the source of information for the following method of Salah from some authentic Books of Hadeeth like
Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, Ibn-e-Maja, Ibn-e-Malik or Tirmizi.

You just mentioned the Way to offer, but didn't quote any authentications from any authentic book or Sahaba

Jazak Allah o Khairan Kaseera

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Subject: [karachi-Friends] Sahi Tareeqa-e-Namaz and benefits.....
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[karachi-Friends] Allah's guidance for the righteous towards truth

Friday Sermon: Allah's guidance for the righteous towards truth
Sermon Delivered by Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad at Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

The Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) was that true and ardent devotee of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) who was sent by God to promote the work of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him).

The Holy Promised Messiah,Whatever he had, he had by virtue of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), and whatever beneficence he attained, he did so owing to his singular devotion, complete following and love to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him).

Allah's guidance for the righteous towards truth

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The Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) was that true and ardent devotee of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) who was sent by God to promote the work of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). Whatever he had, he had by virtue of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), and whatever beneficence he attained, he did so owing to his singular devotion to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). He wrote in his booklet Al Wasiyyat (The Will):

'But this Prophethood of Muhammad [sa] in its intrinsic beneficence suffers from no handicap. Indeed, its beneficence far surpasses the beneficence of other Prophethoods. Following the Prophethood of Muhammadsa is the easiest route through which one can reach God.' [The Will, p.15]

By virtue of his following of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), God raised him to the station of Prophethood. However, he maintained that absolute following was not sufficient to be granted Prophethood and therein was an element of insult of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). What was required to be bestowed Prophethood, in conjunction with complete following, was to be among the Ummah of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). Therefore, the essential condition was to be from among the Ummah. Later, God granted the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) signs of His help and support and drew the world's attention to him. Thus, the mission that started from the time of his claim continues to this day and having attained the beneficence, pious-natured people continue to embark on the vessel of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace). Today only that person can attain the beneficence which the
Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) was granted through his perfect following of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), who is connected with his validated Khilafat. Today, the pious-natured are guided about the truthfulness of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) through dreams and they come into the fold of his Community. In order to prove to these people that the Khilafat of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) is also rightly-guided, God shows the Ahmadiyya Khulafa to these people through dreams. Today, Hudhur presented some accounts from around the globe that illustrate this spiritual phenomenon.

Modu Neejay sahib from Gambia: He was contacted by an Ahmadi doing Tabligh towards the end of 2003, at a time when he belonged to the Tajania sect but had no religious awareness; he blindly followed the mullah and was addicted to drink. Prior to accepting Ahmadiyyat he saw a dream that he is clearing a bush area. After intense hard work he is able to clear the area which is transformed into a bright spot. He saw a holy person in the dream, who is with his companions and beckons him, saying if he wishes to be reformed he should go to him. He saw similar dream three times and with conviction of heart took his Bai'at. When he saw a photograph of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) after he had taken his Bai'at, he said that indeed was the holy person who beckoned him in the dream. A revolutionary change came into his life; he became a regular observant of five daily Prayers in congregation, started reading the Qur'an and participated in various
Tehriks (programmes of financial giving) of the Community. After finishing the Holy Qur'an he held an 'Ameen' ceremony for himself and went on to teach the Qur'an to his children and others. With the grace of God, he is now a Moosi and observes Tahajjud. His family cannot believe he is the same person.

Isa Juv sahib from Gambia: He saw a dream at the age of ten, when he studied in a French Catholic school. He saw an old, dim-lit house which has no roof and a holy person who is light personified with a halo around him is descending from the heavens. He is reciting Durud in a manner that Ahmadis recite it and as the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) taught. In another dream that he had at a later stage, around the age of seventeen, he saw that he came across an old, dilapidated house that had been renovated with white walls and green windows and doors. He felt in the dream that the place has been given respect. A holy person came by and called him which frightened him. The holy person called again and upon asking who he was said that he had come in the latter-days and there was nothing to fear. He led him to a place resembling a laboratory and said it was his laboratory and he was an alchemist. When Isa sahib woke up he had tears in
his eyes out of love of the holy man. Ten years later when he saw a photograph of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) he immediately recognised him as the holy man of both his dreams.

Muhammad Ali sahib from Tanzania: He saw in a dream that a fair-skinned holy person leads Salat which gives him spiritual comfort. A few days later he came to an Ahmadiyya mosque and saw a photograph of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) and recognised him as the holy person from his dream. He took his Bai'at. After Bai'at he endured hardship upon hardship. Hudhur explained that it is not only the Ahmadis in Pakistan who have to experience adversities. He had an acre land due to him but his father disowned him. He moved to another place and God provided six acres of lands for him. He excels in Tabligh and his efforts have formed six Jama'ats in the area.

Kaboore Musa sahib from Burkina Faso: In his old age, his father told him not to hesitate to accept the Imam Mahdi when he came to know of him. Musa sahib prayed a lot for this. One day he dreamed that a lot of people are fighting in the town and much blood is spilling. When he approached people to ask why they were fighting, the crowd moved towards him aggressively. Just then a holy person picked him up as one picks up a child and placed him on a wide, clear road. He started walking on the road when he saw a mosque. He went inside the mosque. After the dream, he came to a mission house where he saw a photograph of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace). He excitedly said this was the very holy person whom had saved him from the crowd at the time of danger. As he was an Imam, when he accepted Ahmadiyyat, many others followed him.

Pir sahib from Senegal: Followers of Pir sahib are spread in 132 places. He accepted Ahmadiyyat following a dream and said on oath on the Holy Qur'an that he saw a dream many years ago when he was looking for Imam Mahdi. In the dream he saw the Kalima has fallen on the ground and all the holy persons and saints are trying to lift it together but are not able to do so. Just then a holy person appears and it is said that his name is Muhammad al Mahdi. All by himself, he raises the Kalima aloft.

Hudhur explained that today is it through the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) alone that the truth about the Kalima is reaching the world, otherwise the Ulema (religious scholars) have brought Islam into disrepute.

Abdullah Fateh from Algeria: He came to our mission house to attend a Question and Answer session and was given two books of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) for reading. These were 'Khutbah Ilhamia' and 'Al Huda'. After reading the books he returned and said he felt these could not be the writings of a liar. He tied a cloth on his head in a manner of turban and said a while ago he had seen a person in a dream who had a turban on in a similar manner and had a very luminous face. He was shown a photograph of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) but was not told who it was. Seeing the photograph he stood up and said that was the very person he had seen in his dream and took his Bai'at.

An Arab from Finland: A few years after the death of his father he saw a dream that his father is asleep in his grave while another dignified, spiritually radiant holy person who has a robe on, emerges from the grave. He takes him by his right hand and leads him away. Six months later while he was scanning through TV channels, he came across MTA and saw Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih IV (may Allah have mercy on him) and Hilmi sahib. A few days later Khalifatul Masih IV (may Allah have mercy on him) showed a photograph of a holy person on MTA, this was the Promised Messiah (on whom peace). He recognised him as the holy person of his dream.

Ahmadi from Senegal: He saw pictures of two holy persons in his dream up in the heavens. He knew one of them was the Holy Prophet (peace and blessing of Allah be on him) and the other, the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) but he could not make out who was who. One of the pictures disappeared while the other came closer and said: 'I am Imam Mahdi'. Our missionary reports that when our delegation reached him, the person saw a photograph of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) and said he was the very same holy person he has seen in his dream.

Ahmadi from Syria: When he was introduced to Ahmadiyyat, he read all the Arabic books of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) and was spell-bound by his writings. He performed Istakhara and was shown the Quranic verse: 'Then found they one of Our servants upon whom We had bestowed Our mercy, and whom We had taught knowledge from Ourself.' (18:66) In another dream he saw the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). Upon his asking, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) told him, 'only Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the vessel of deliverance against the evils of this age'. This convinced him of the truth of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) but he did not announce it because he wanted his circles of friends to think for themselves. In 2009, he took his Bai'at along with five associates.

Beema sahib from Ivory Coast: Twenty years ago he fell very ill and suffered from epileptic seizures. No treatment worked and he was given a Taveez (an amulet) as a cure. During those days he saw a holy person in a vision who told him to take the amulet off. He strongly felt that holy person to be the Imam Mahdi. He took the amulet off and was cured from that day onwards and searched for the Imam Mahdi. When some Ahmadis reached him he said he knew he had found the Mahdi. When he was shown photographs of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) and his Khulafa, he recognised the Promised Messiah as the holy person who had asked him to take the amulet off.

Ahmadi from Abu Dhabi: He says that he read as many books as he could get hold of and also watched Arabic MTA. In the beginning he felt negative but when he studied Qur'an and Ahadith carefully his heart was satisfied. He felt he had two options: one was to wait for Hadhrat Isa (on whom be peace) or to accept Hadhrat Ahmad (on whom be peace), who had rid Islam of absurdities and also defended the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), as the Promised Messiah. He prayed intensely for Divine guidance. His heart was inclined towards Ahmadiyyat. When he read the Promised Messiah's (on whom be peace) poetry in praise of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), he was overwhelmed and felt a liar could never write such verses. Also, for a non-Arab to be so eloquent in Arabic without Divine help was impossible and this was nothing but a sign. Thus God guided him.

Hariri sahib from Syria: He says that he is a simple person who cannot read and write. In the past few months he saw many dreams that he is dying. In the last dream he saw that the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) is gracing a room in his house. In reality the room has just one door, but in the dream he sees there are two doors in the room; one towards the west and other facing the Ka'ba. His father asks him to say salaam to the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). After salaam, when he shakes the hand of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), he feels a gust of cool air touch his face and experiences peace of mind. He sees that the Imam Mahdi is present in the mantle of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). He performed Istakhara and was shown his spiritual failings. Later, he saw himself with his mother in a graveyard where the Imam Mahdi has come to take his spirit and
strikes him on his neck. The strike leaves a mark on his neck. He leaves and along the way asks a young man that he has a mark/seal of the Imam Mahdi on his neck to which the young man says he too had the mark and that it was a seal of Bai'at.

Haqooq sahib from Algeria: He says that one day he happened to see MTA and saw the arguments against Christianity. He was convinced that this Community was truthful and felt he did not need a true dream as a sign and in the tradition of Hadhrat Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) he accepted the Imam Mahdi. Later, he saw a dream in which Nasir Salahudin is leading the Jama'at against the Christians. Suddenly he hears a sound, 'switch on your mobile phone, a number will appear'. On his mobile was the number 2150, which was the time at the moment. He says since taking his Bai'at seven months ago, he has been fasting. He also saw another dream in which the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) is very angry at the mullah and says forcefully about the Promised Messiah, 'he is a Messenger and the Prophet to come after me'.

Hadad sahib from Algeria: In 2004 he saw a dream in which a man says to him, 'let me take you to see the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him)'. He sees that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) stands behind a metre high wall and smiles at him. A man with wheat complexion who has a black beard is also there. The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) points to the person and says, 'he is a prophet of God'. Four years later, he saw MTA and noticed a photograph of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace). Recognising him from the dream, he took his Bai'at.

Shamsuddin Sadeeq sahib from Kurdistan: He saw the Promised Messiah coming down while seated inside the moon in a dream twenty five years ago. After seeing MTA, he was convinced that this satellite channel was an interpretation of his dream and he wished to take his Bai'at.

Abdul Rahim sahib from Iraq: He wrote to Hudhur to accept his Bai'at, after seeing the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) in a dream where he said to him, 'you are our person, you should take your Bai'at'.

Muhammad Ahmad sahib of Egypt: He says that prior to taking Bai'at he was in darkness. Like other Muslims, he was also embroiled in suspicions and doubts and had no answers to his problems. One day he was scanning the TV channels, wondering if Christianity or may be Shiaism had the answers. He saw MTA and felt the Islam that was portrayed there was unfamiliar. He saw discussion on the Messiah there and the mention that Divine revelation is not terminated. He pondered over these matters and felt extremely confused. After regaining composure he decided to watch some more MTA but understood that the Ulema considered Ahmadis as unbelievers. He realised that all prophets of God were called liars and the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) had himself said that Islam will be divided in many sects. He also thought about the emphasis laid on following and accepting the Mahdi. Therefore, he prayed most sincerely. He found out that the Promised
Messiah (on whom be peace) had formed a Community and the Community followed the Qur'an and Sunnah. Upon reflection, he found these matters virtuous and corroborative. His heart became inclined in this way as it was all in accordance to the Qur'an and the sayings of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). He found many Ahadith that substantiated the coming of the Mahdi. However, one who had only learned Islam from the Ulema may find these matters unfamiliar. He performed Istakhara and during Ramadan 2007 saw dreams that unfolded the truth of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) to him.

Ahmadi from Gambia: He was a village leader who saw a dream in which two people tell him that it is the age of the Promised Messiah and he has come. He had many dreams in which he saw these two people. In one dream his nephew comes to him riding a galloping horse and tells him two people are waiting for him by the seaside. When he arrives there, one of them points to the other and says, 'he is the Mahdi of the age, accept him'. When he came to see our missionary, he was asked would he recognise those people if he was shown photographs. This he did. He recognised the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) and Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih II (may Allah be pleased with him) as the two person he had seen in his dream.

Galabzabi sahib from Algeria: When young, he saw in a dream that a fair-skinned person asks him to give him his hand so that he could take him along, but he is a bit hesitant. He continued to see this dream for nearly a year, after which he accepted the fair-skinned man's offer. He also saw another person who appeared to be a person of high status and it was him who had asked the fair-skinned person to fetch him. Many years later, quite by chance he saw the person who would ask him to come along with him on MTA. On the same channel, he saw the other person who had instructed the fair-skinned person. He was astonished who these people were. When the reality unfolded he realised he was shown the dreams so that he could accept the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) and join his Community, so he took his Bai'at. Hudhur explained that the fair-skinned person in the dream was Mustapha Thabit sahib and the person who instructed him was Hadhrat Khalifatul
Masih IV (may Allah have mercy on him).

Maalik sahib from Iraq: He was introduced to the Community before the time of Arabic MTA. Watching MTA, he used to think Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih IV (may Allah have mercy on him) was perhaps a Buddhist representative. When he watched MTA at the time of his passing away, he felt he saw Muhammadan light on the face of Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih IV (may Allah have mercy on him) and he wished if only this person had been a Muslim. After the Arabic MTA channel was introduced, he and his family took Bai'at. His wife took her Bai'at after seeing two dreams in the first week.

He had a dream in which he heard about the advent of Imam Mahdi in Najaf. He went to see him with some friends and said to him that they wished to take his Bai'at. However, the person says he is only a reformer, the Imam Mahdi has come in Qadian. In another dream, he saw Hudhur addressing a large gathering where all the people are standing while Maalik sahib sat next to Hudhur. He watches Hudhur's Achken (long coat) and wonders how Hudhur is wearing the dress of the Imam Mahdi. After Hudhur's address, Hudhur placed his hand on Maalik sahib's head and asked him if he was satisfied, then Hudhur says, 'it seems you are hungry' and takes him to eat. Maalik sahib took his Bai'at.

Yasin Sharif sahib from Syria: He wrote to Hudhur that since his Bai'at God had blessed him. Prior to Bai'at he had been deeply concerned over the state of Muslims. He had tried following many sects and Maulwis as well as a person who claimed to the Mahdi and whom he found far-removed from the truth. In 1997 he purchased a satellite dish and having abandoned his work as an Imam, sat home. He was most unhappy with the Islamic world and wished his earthly life to finish. He wrote to Hudhur that after ten years of seclusion God guided him towards Hudhur and he found peace and tranquillity. He went for Umrah in June and performed several Umrahs, the first on behalf of the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace), followed by on behalf of all the Khulafa. Prior to Bai'at he saw some Ahmadis in a dream and asked them to tell him, having sworn by God, that they were firm on the way of God and His Prophet's Sunnah and understood the reality of Islam. The
person repeated this so many times in a vehement manner that Yasin sahib could see the veins in his neck. On this Yasin sahib told him that he too was an Ahmadi from that day. He then saw Hudhur in the dream. Hudhur appears hurried and goes in an easterly direction. After taking his Bai'at he saw a dream in which he is in the state of Burzukh and someone says, 'now the telephone line is with Mirza sahib and whoever wishes to use the telephone can do so via Mirza sahib'.

Ahmadi from Benin: He was not very forthcoming in his chandas in spite of being well-off and no word of advice had an effect on him and the murrabi sahib thought prayer was the last resort. This worked wonders. He saw Hudhur in a dream in which Hudhur goes to him and tells him to clear his chanda payments, adding, 'you think your arrears are a lot whereas they are not.' After relating the dream he cleared all his arrears.

Momin sahib from Algeria: He says he was introduced to the Community six months ago and he verified the coming of the Imam Mahdi but did not know what to do next. He was shown two dreams. In the first dream he saw Hudhur and experienced an ineffable condition. In the second dream he saw that he is crying and is asking Hudhur, for the sake of God, what should be done. Upon this, Hudhur gives him two Bai'at forms. When he awoke, he switched on the internet and found exactly the same Bai'at forms, and immediately took his Bai'at.

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* USA: Muhammedanisk undermenneske kniv(?)hugger forbipasserende, der ikke er
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== 1 av 3 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 07:25
Från: Ulf Sundin

On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:04:08 +0200, kjell <petter@yuyuy.se> wrote:

>Efter hårt tänkande Ulf Sundin skrev :
>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:54:00 +0000 (UTC), Charlie R
>> <spam_spam_spam@chroot.yi.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:41:34 +0200, Ulf Sundin ba:
>>>
>>>> Hanne Kjöller hade i DN i förra veckan en kommentar rörande
>>>> en artikel i "Vi Föräldrar", där en mormor tog hand om den lille
>>>> telningen så att föräldrarna kunde spara sina föräldradagar.
>>>> Mormor var långtidssjukskriven barnsköterska.
>>>> Hon verkade alltså ha aldeles utmärkt arbetsförmåga, och hon
>>>> närmast skröt om hur bra arrangemanget var. Om några veckor
>>>> skulle de allihopa - barn, föräldrar och mormor - åka till London.
>>>
>>> Se där en förebildlig familjeidyll. Jag borde förstås lagt till
>>> jakt och skötande av barnbarn på listan. Vad var det förresten
>>> för fel på den gamla barnsköterskan?
>>
>> Det stod inte i artikeln, vad jag minns.
>
>Likväl kommer du med insinuerande inlägg att hon skulle vara fuskande
>och simulerande.

Om man inte klarar av att sköta ett jobb som barnsköterska,
men samtidigt klarar av att träna flera gånger i veckan,
passa barnbarnet hela arbetsveckan, och dessutom
passar på att reser till London med barnbarnet och dess
föräldrar får man nog intrycket att hon nog skulle
klara av sitt jobb som barnsköterska också.

Tyvärr verkar inte "Vi Föräldrar" finnas på nätet
så att man kan kolla källan. Men kjell, om du misstror
mig (eller Kjöller) så får du väl gå och skaffa det senaste
numret. Det bör nog även finnas på välsorterade bibliotek.
Du kan väl avrapportera barnsköterskans diagnos
(om den nu nämns i artikeln) här sedan. OK?

/Ulf Sundin


== 2 av 3 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 10:57
Från: kjell

Ulf Sundin skrev p� 2011-06-03 :
> On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:04:08 +0200, kjell <petter@yuyuy.se> wrote:
>
>> Efter h�rt t�nkande Ulf Sundin skrev :
>>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:54:00 +0000 (UTC), Charlie R
>>> <spam_spam_spam@chroot.yi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:41:34 +0200, Ulf Sundin ba:
>>>>
>>>>> Hanne Kj�ller hade i DN i f�rra veckan en kommentar r�rande
>>>>> en artikel i "Vi F�r�ldrar", d�r en mormor tog hand om den lille
>>>>> telningen s� att f�r�ldrarna kunde spara sina f�r�ldradagar.
>>>>> Mormor var l�ngtidssjukskriven barnsk�terska.
>>>>> Hon verkade allts� ha aldeles utm�rkt arbetsf�rm�ga, och hon
>>>>> n�rmast skr�t om hur bra arrangemanget var. Om n�gra veckor
>>>>> skulle de allihopa - barn, f�r�ldrar och mormor - �ka till London.
>>>>
>>>> Se d�r en f�rebildlig familjeidyll. Jag borde f�rst�s lagt till
>>>> jakt och sk�tande av barnbarn p� listan. Vad var det f�rresten
>>>> f�r fel p� den gamla barnsk�terskan?
>>>
>>> Det stod inte i artikeln, vad jag minns.
>>
>> Likv�l kommer du med insinuerande inl�gg att hon skulle vara fuskande
>> och simulerande.
>
> Om man inte klarar av att sk�ta ett jobb som barnsk�terska,
> men samtidigt klarar av att tr�na flera g�nger i veckan,
> passa barnbarnet hela arbetsveckan, och dessutom
> passar p� att reser till London med barnbarnet och dess
> f�r�ldrar f�r man nog intrycket att hon nog skulle
> klara av sitt jobb som barnsk�terska ocks�.

Finns ingenting som s�ger att dina "intryck" skulle vara de r�tta,
allrahelst en h�german som �nskar mer skattes�nkningar och mindre
socialf�rs�kringsutgifter. Dina f�rs�k att framst�lla dig som
intellektuellt hederlig och sanningss�gare kan du ta med dina andra
kollegor inom KFIB.

> Tyv�rr verkar inte "Vi F�r�ldrar" finnas p� n�tet
> s� att man kan kolla k�llan. Men kjell, om du misstror
> mig (eller Kj�ller)

Sj�lvklart misstror jag er b�gge h�germ�n, ni vill ju ha fler
skattel�ttnader p� de sjukas bekostnad.

> s� f�r du v�l g� och skaffa det senaste
> numret.

Till skillnad mot dig vill jag inte rota i andras diagnoser.

> Det b�r nog �ven finnas p� v�lsorterade bibliotek.
> Du kan v�l avrapportera barnsk�terskans diagnos
> (om den nu n�mns i artikeln) h�r sedan. OK?

Det borde vara din uppgift, eller du vill bara sprida rykten om andras
ev sjukdomar p� swnet.politik? Att frossa i andras problem �r din
viktiga uppgift ser jag.

> /Ulf Sundin

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== 3 av 3 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 12:52
Från: Ulf Sundin

On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 19:57:40 +0200, kjell <petter@yuyuy.se> wrote:

>Ulf Sundin skrev p� 2011-06-03 :

>> Tyv�rr verkar inte "Vi F�r�ldrar" finnas p� n�tet
>> s� att man kan kolla k�llan. Men kjell, om du misstror
>> mig (eller Kj�ller)
>
>Sj�lvklart misstror jag er b�gge h�germ�n, ni vill ju ha fler
>skattel�ttnader p� de sjukas bekostnad.

Men nu talar vi inte om skattel�ttnader.
Men jag �r tveksam till att bidra till v�lbest�llda
medelklassf�r�ldrars lyxliv med "anst�lld" sjukskriven
f�r�lder.

>> s� f�r du v�l g� och skaffa det senaste
>> numret.
>
>Till skillnad mot dig vill jag inte rota i andras diagnoser.

Jag tror inte att det finns n�gra referenser till "diagnoser"
i "Vi F�r�ldrar". De ville ju bara ber�tta om hur listigt det
�r att l�ta den sjukskrivna mor-/far- f�r�ldern ta hand
om barnet och d�rmed "spara" f�r�ldradagar till barnets
f�r�ldrar. Listiga knep f�r den stressade medelklassen,
helt enkelt. Att de skulle st�lla kritiska fr�gor och undra
hur det �r med den d�r diagnosen verkar mycket
osannolikt. Men, som sagt, du f�r g�rna kolla om du vill.

>> Det b�r nog �ven finnas p� v�lsorterade bibliotek.
>> Du kan v�l avrapportera barnsk�terskans diagnos
>> (om den nu n�mns i artikeln) h�r sedan. OK?
>
>Det borde vara din uppgift, eller du vill bara sprida rykten om andras
>ev sjukdomar p� swnet.politik? Att frossa i andras problem �r din
>viktiga uppgift ser jag.

Vilket "problem" menar du att jag frossar i?
Snarare kan man v�l s�ga att jag *ifr�gas�tter" problemet.
Men jag f�rst�r att du �r m�n om att medelklassen ska f� ha
sina f�r�ldrar "anst�llda" medans de g�r p� sjukpenning,
och sedan kan bjuda tillbaka med en trevlig resa till London.
Hur detta g�r ihop med den v�lk�nda vurm f�r "de s�mst
st�llda" �r dock lite tveksamt.

/Ulf Sundin

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== 1 av 5 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 07:41
Från: Ulf Sundin

On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:25:09 +0200, "- Kjelle" <kjelle@sverige.nu>
wrote:

>Ulf Sundin wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:55:51 +0200, "- Kjelle" <kjelle@sverige.nu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anneli Halme wrote:
>>>> Sparbanken som en gång fanns o lärde mig spara
>>>> är ju numerar rena hånet.
>>>
>>> Ja, det kan jag hålla med om och då tänker jag inte
>>> bara på den låga räntan på sparande.
>>>
>>> T ex tvingas gamla människor med rullator att sitta och vänta
>>> nånstans mellan 25-40 minuter innan de kan ta ut sin tusenlapp för
>>> inköp av veckans delikatesser.
>>
>> Hm, nu vill jag minnas att du var en av de tre musketörerna
>> med enstaviga namn som börjar på 'k', som försvarade
>> inskränkningarna i kontantanvändningen i samhället
>> (när Oppositionen (TM) föreslog att betalning med kontanter
>> ska försvåras ytterligare).
>
>Jo, det stämmer. Jag är också emot att "money talks" - trots att jag
>aldrig hört det.
>
>> Hur ska du ha det egentligen?
>
>Ja, säg det. Jag kan förstå att äldre i 70-80 årsåldern vill betala med
>kontanter.

Och barn också, kanske?
Men att ta ut kontanter är i det närmaste omöjligt.
På kontor kan det ta en timme (på de fåtaliga kontor
som befattar sig med kontanter). Att halvblinga 85-åringar
ska ta ut på bankomat är ju inte heller realistiskt.
Min fru sköter bankomatuttag både till sin mor (84)
och en väninna till henne (några år äldre).
Hemtjänsten, som betjänar den äldre av damerna, får inte
ta ut pengar (och det kan jag nog förstå).

>> Är det bra att kunna betala med kontanter, och att kunna
>> hämta ut kontanter, eller är det ett sätt att förstöra
>> arbetsmiljön för de bankanställda, busschaufförer och
>> torghandlare (risken för rån)?
>
>Risken för rån skall inte underskattas.

Eftersom snart inga kontanter hanteras, så får rånarna börja
stjäla annat. Ska vi då försöka hindra folk från att gå omkring
med dyra mobiltelefoner, GPS-klockor och dyra handväskor,
då de i det närmaste lockar stackar utsatta att stjäla?

>Samtidigt tror jag att ett
>kontantlöst samhälle försvårar för vissa att "tvätta" svarta pengar, att
>de inte kommer in i den vanliga ekonomin så lätt.

Jag hörde nyligen en ganska kul historia av en bekant som är musiker.
Efter att ha turnerat på småklubbar i Europa i ett par veckor ville
han sätta in pengarna på banken (en kakburk med skrynkliga
Euro-sedlar). Det var inte det lättaste. Det blev intervjuer och
granskning. Banktjänstemännen var mycket konfunderade över
att arvoden för spelningar betaldes ut i *kontanter* ("skulle de
inte ha kunnat överfört pengarna till ert konto direkt?" var en
fråga som ställdes). På sådana frågor skulle man ju velat ha
svarat med den retoriska frågan "Med era avgifter på överföringar?".
Nåja efter ett par intervjuer, så fick han tillstånd att sätta in
pengarna. Man undrar ju vad vi har bankerna till, egentligen.

Det är ju bra att du i alla fall numera är lite ambvialent i denna
fråga. Kontanter är ju ett mycket konkret och behändigt
betalningsmedel (i synnerhet för mindre belopp), och
ett samhälle som försöker försvåra (alt. eliminera)
kontantbetalningar är ute på hal is.

/Ulf Sundin


== 2 av 5 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 08:07
Från: Hakvinius

kjell skrev 2011-06-03 15:22:

>
> Vilka organisationer blandar inte in partipolitik?

Jag f�rv�ntar mig att de platser d�r jag handlar mat, inte blandar in
partipolitik. Jag skulle bli lika avogt inst�lld oavsett om det vore
v�nster- eller h�gerpolitik som trycktes p� mig. Jag vill varken se
sossebutiker eller moderatshoppar.

> Men det �r snarare *vilka* organisationer som st�r dig, och du vill
> hellre ha det dolt,

Coop och HSB �r tv� organisationer - Sparbankerna en annan. Sen har vi
ju "OK" ("oljekamraterna")..

Dessutom har jag en nagel i �gat p� Riksbyggen. Jag satt som ordf�rande
i en Riksbyggen-BRF under n�gra �r, och det enda man gjorde fr�n
Riksbyggens sida var att f�rs�ka p�dyvla oss orimligt dyra tj�nster. Vi
k�pte naturligtvis senare dessa tj�nster fr�n privata akt�rer. Dessutom
var de anst�llda p� RB rufflare!

> med fint ord kallas det f�r lobbing, det �r
> s�kerligen b�ttre passande f�r dina smakl�kar.
>

Nej, det kallas "redovisning av �sikter", exakt det �ven du �gnar dig �t
h�r...


== 3 av 5 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 10:22
Från: Charlie R

Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:07:47 +0200, Hakvinius ba:

> Jag satt som ordförande
> i en Riksbyggen-BRF under några år, och det enda man gjorde från
> Riksbyggens sida var att försöka pådyvla oss orimligt dyra tjänster

Det är klart - kamraterna i rörelsen måste ju ha sin försörjning. Alla
kan inte vara Folkets Husföreståndare...

> Vi
> köpte naturligtvis senare dessa tjänster från privata aktörer.

Tänkte ni inte på hur ni bidrog till arbetslösheten på det viset?

Rörelsekamraterna kunde väl knappast räkna med att hitta någon
ståndsmässig försörjning utanför Rörelsen? Bristande solidaritet
kallades sådant förr i världen, men numera heter det tydligen
empatilöshet...


Charlie.


== 4 av 5 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 12:27
Från: Ken

On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 06:14:11 +0200, kjell <petter@yuyuy.se> wrote:

>>> Klart att jag motarbetar varje vänsterregering!!
>>> De är ju skadliga för landet
>>
>> Nej det är tvärt om. Det var ju inte högern som gjorde
>> Sverige till ett av jordens bästa välfärdsländer.
>
> När Hakvinius säger att högern är bra för Sverige menar han
> uppenberligen inte alla, inte sjuka, inte arbetslösa eller pensionärer.
> Men det säger han ju givitvis inte, utan försämringar för massor av
> människor skall förtigas eller manipuleras.

Sverige har ju sjunkit på listan sedan borgarna tog över.


== 5 av 5 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 12:29
Från: Ken

On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:25:35 +0200, Hakvinius <hakvinius@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>>> Klart att jag motarbetar varje v�nsterregering!!
>>> De �r ju skadliga f�r landet
>>
>> Nej det �r tv�rt om.
>
> Det var d� det, i forntid! Sossarna har s�kert varit bra f�r Sverige,
> men de bra sossarna �r sedan l�nge utd�da. Nu har de ersatts av
> populister och pajasar!

Ja de liknar borgare hela bunten numera.
Sedan mitten p� 80-talet har de dessutom
pysslat mest med h�gerpolitik.

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== 1 av 1 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 07:56
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British intelligence has hacked into an al-Qaeda online magazine and
replaced bomb-making instructions with a recipe for cupcakes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8553366/MI6-attacks-al-Qaeda-in-Operation-Cupcake.html

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Jews have paralysed our societies through the enforcement of PC (
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by publicly admitting your tribe's responsibility! And dump your mad dog
Martin van Creveld ( http://preview.tinyurl.com/5vutnfl ).

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== 1 av 1 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 08:14
Från: Hakvinius

kjell skrev 2011-06-03 15:15:
> Bruno Hagelsten låtsades :
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> Det som vi haft i miljontals år.
>>
>> Vad har vi haft så länge?
>
> Befolkning.
>

Nej, homo Sapiens (människan) har bara funnits i ca 200 000 år, så du
ligger minst en tiopotens fel...

Handel över gränserna, dvs globalisering, har vi dock haft i flera tusen
år, även om t ex handelsförbundet Hansan är så ungt som från 1300-talet.


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== 1 av 1 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 09:01
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QDd0HIdq6w


Kunne der v�re noget at l�re for jer, europ�iske 'elite'?


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Jews have paralysed our societies through the enforcement of PC (
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/46j2gzn ). Chieftain Netanyahu: Break the spell
by publicly admitting your tribe's responsibility! And dump your mad dog
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== 1 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 09:43
Från: Mikael Forsberg

Nu skall bilderberggruppen köra en skenrättegång mot Mladics trots att
alla borde veta att bilderbergarna är de värsta massmördare världen
någonsin skådat. Hur vore det om de åtalade några i sitt eget
gangstergäng som Kissinger, Bush och för den delen *alla* i
bilderbergruppen för det är det gangstergänget som står för alla mord
och terror i världen till största del.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho-3AXJwcnQ&feature=feedu

== 2 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 11:27
Från: kjell

Mikael Forsberg använde sitt tangenbord för att skriva :
> Nu skall bilderberggruppen köra en skenrättegång mot Mladics

Du menar att Mladic är oskyldig?

--
Akademiker,högutbildade, välavlönade människor högt upp i
välståndsligan har plötsligt blivit de som har det svårt i samhället,
de som tidigare hade det sämst har i detta borgerliga egoistiska
samhälle
blivit de som har det gott ställt och vara de som skall göra ekonomiska
offer.


== 3 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 11:42
Från: Bruno Hagelsten

>Mikael Forsberg
>
>Nu skall bilderberggruppen köra en skenrättegång mot Mladics [...]

Du är som vanligt grovt felunderrättad.

Ratko Mladic skall ställas till inför Cour internationale de justice,
inledningsvis "initial appearance". "Initial appearance" började med
att Alphonse Orie läste upp diverse personuppgifter som Mladic skulle
bekräfta. Vidare läste domaren upp en sammanfattning av de graverande
brottsanklagelserna. När Orie var klar föreslogs, enligt regelverket,
att den åtalade får 30 dagar på sig att förbereda ett svaromål.
Åtalspunkterna i Mladic fall är 11 till antalet: folkmord, medverkan i
folkmord, förföljelse, utrotning, mord, deportation, inhumana
handlingar, terror mot civila, grym behandling, angrepp på civila och
gisslantagande.

Bruno


== 4 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 12:51
Från: Mikael Forsberg

kjell skrev 2011-06-03 20:27:
> Mikael Forsberg anv�nde sitt tangenbord f�r att skriva :
>> Nu skall bilderberggruppen k�ra en skenr�tteg�ng mot Mladics
>
> Du menar att Mladic �r oskyldig?

Inte alls n�dv�ndigt att Mladics skulle vara oskyldig men saken blir ju
inte b�ttre om han skall d�mas av �n v�rre f�rbrytare.

Bilderberbergarna beh�ver f�rst�s en avledningsman�ver fr�n deras
folkmord i Libyen bland annat men det �r ju inte n�gon r�ttvisa de
efterstr�var. Det �r trots allt bilderbergarna som kontrollerar
r�tteg�ngen likav�l som de folkmord de beg�r i Afghanistan, Libyen med
flera andra platser. S� visst �r det bara ett sk�despel med n�gon
stackare som offras.

Hur m�nga m�nniskor har blivit vr�kta och frusit ihj�l f�r att denna
domstols ledam�ter skall leva sina lyxliv och tycka sig ha r�tt att
h�rska? Det �r v�l rimligen ingen utav dem som producerat n�got, men
m�rdar massor utav m�nniskor g�r de h�r bilderbergarna dagligen.


== 5 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 13:19
Från: Mikael Forsberg

Bruno Hagelsten skrev 2011-06-03 20:42:
>> Mikael Forsberg
>>
>> Nu skall bilderberggruppen k�ra en skenr�tteg�ng mot Mladics [...]
>
> Du �r som vanligt grovt felunderr�ttad.
>
> Ratko Mladic skall st�llas till inf�r Cour internationale de justice,
> inledningsvis "initial appearance". �Initial appearance� b�rjade med
> att Alphonse Orie l�ste upp diverse personuppgifter som Mladic skulle
> bekr�fta. Vidare l�ste domaren upp en sammanfattning av de graverande
> brottsanklagelserna. N�r Orie var klar f�reslogs, enligt regelverket,
> att den �talade f�r 30 dagar p� sig att f�rbereda ett svarom�l.
> �talspunkterna i Mladic fall �r 11 till antalet: folkmord, medverkan i
> folkmord, f�rf�ljelse, utrotning, mord, deportation, inhumana
> handlingar, terror mot civila, grym behandling, angrepp p� civila och
> gisslantagande.

Det finns ingen i bilderberbggruppen som inte skulle kunna anklagas f�r
folkmord. Hela saken �r ju till f�r att d�lja fr�mst det folkmord de
h�ller p� med i Libyen just nu men naturligtvis vill de lura in Serbien
i EU ocks� s� det har v�l med tidpunkten att g�ra. Dessutom m�ste
England visa att Typhoon-planet fungerar i strid eftersom 2000 arbeten
st�r p� spel d�r med tanke p� en t�nkbar order till Indien.

Egentligen ett liknande sk�l till att bilderbergarna skickar in JAS �ver
Libyen ocks� eftersom de vill s�lja det till Brasilien.

Alla m�nniskor och barn de m�rdar bryr sig som vanligt inte
bilderbergarna det minsta om eftersom de sj�lva dragit sig undan.


== 6 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 13:38
Från: Bruno Hagelsten

>> Bruno
>>
>> Ratko Mladic skall st�llas till inf�r Cour internationale de justice,
>> inledningsvis "initial appearance". �Initial appearance� b�rjade med
>> att Alphonse Orie l�ste upp diverse personuppgifter som Mladic skulle
>> bekr�fta. Vidare l�ste domaren upp en sammanfattning av de graverande
>> brottsanklagelserna. N�r Orie var klar f�reslogs, enligt regelverket,
>> att den �talade f�r 30 dagar p� sig att f�rbereda ett svarom�l.
>> �talspunkterna i Mladic fall �r 11 till antalet: folkmord, medverkan i
>> folkmord, f�rf�ljelse, utrotning, mord, deportation, inhumana
>> handlingar, terror mot civila, grym behandling, angrepp p� civila och
>> gisslantagande.

>Mikael Forsberg
>
>Det finns ingen i bilderberbggruppen som inte skulle kunna anklagas f�r
>folkmord. [...]

Hur det �n r�kar f�rh�lla sig med dina bilderbergv�nner s� �r det
Ratko Mladic som den h�r r�tteg�ngen handlar om.

Bruno


== 7 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 14:01
Från: Bruno Hagelsten

>Mikael Forsberg
>
>Inte alls nödvändigt att Mladics skulle vara oskyldig men saken blir ju
>inte bättre om han skall dömas av än värre förbrytare.

Huruvida Ratko Mladic döms för de brott han anklagas för kommer att
avgöras i sinom tid. Mladic har inte yttrat sig om att domstolens
behörighet. Han fann det tillfredsställande att processen skulle föras
utan massmedias närvaro.

Bruno


== 8 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 14:16
Från: Mikael Forsberg

Bruno Hagelsten skrev 2011-06-03 22:38:

>> Mikael Forsberg
>>
>> Det finns ingen i bilderberbggruppen som inte skulle kunna anklagas f�r
>> folkmord. [...]
>
> Hur det �n r�kar f�rh�lla sig med dina bilderbergv�nner s� �r det
> Ratko Mladic som den h�r r�tteg�ngen handlar om.

Det �r bilderbergarna som styr r�tteg�ngen s� det �r ju folkm�rdarnas
r�tteg�ng mot eventuella likasinnade.


== 9 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 15:08
Från: Bruno Hagelsten

>Mikael Forsberg
>
>Det �r bilderbergarna som styr r�tteg�ngen s� det �r ju folkm�rdarnas
>r�tteg�ng mot eventuella likasinnade.

Jag �r ledsen att jag m�ste bryta din illusion, men det finns ingen
bilderbergare i Internationella domstolen i Haag. Det enda som �r av
intresse f�r domstolen �r att ge Ratko Mladic en r�ttvis och oj�vig
r�ttslig pr�vning.

Ratko Mladic har inte n�gon nytta av det slags advokatyr du ger
uttryck f�r. Det handlar inte om bilderbergare, hur konstigt det �n m�
f�refalla dig. Fr�gan g�ller om Mladic kan f�llas till ansvar f�r ett
antal mycket allvarliga krigsbrott.

Varf�r har du s� oerh�rt sv�rt att f�rst� det?

Bruno


== 10 av 10 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 16:44
Från: Mikael Forsberg

Bruno Hagelsten skrev 2011-06-03 23:01:
>> Mikael Forsberg
>>
>> Inte alls nödvändigt att Mladics skulle vara oskyldig men saken blir ju
>> inte bättre om han skall dömas av än värre förbrytare.
>
> Huruvida Ratko Mladic döms för de brott han anklagas för kommer att
> avgöras i sinom tid. Mladic har inte yttrat sig om att domstolens
> behörighet. Han fann det tillfredsställande att processen skulle föras
> utan massmedias närvaro.

Han har naturligtvis aldrig varit tillfredsställd med att tidernas
värsta massmördarsyndikat bilderberggruppen gripit honom lika lite som
Gaddafis barn och barnbarn som nu mördas på Anders Fogh Rasmussens order
(betald utav bilderbergarna) kan vara heller.


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== 1 av 3 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 10:31
Från: Charlie R

Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:04:24 +0200, kjell ba:

> Jag läser Transports tidning... det finns snart inga svenska
> långtradarchaufförer längre.

Vad menar Transports tidning med "svenska" förare? Svenska medborgare
eller "etniska svenskar" eller vad? Bussförarna här i trakten är nog
svenska medborgare allihop, men hälften er ut att vara födda utom
riket. Har långtradarchaufförer sämre pröjs än bussförare? Beror det
i så fall på att Transport har sämre avtal än Kommunal?

Charlie.


== 2 av 3 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 10:33
Från: Charlie R

Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:04:24 +0200, kjell ba:

> Jag läser Transports tidning... det finns snart inga svenska
> långtradarchaufförer längre. Vill de ha jobb får de vara "följsamma"
> och gå ner i löner som ingen kan leva på.

Vad har svenska långtradarchaufförer i lön annars? Har du någon länk
till det här?


Charlie.


== 3 av 3 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 11:07
Från: kjell

Charlie R formulerade på fredag :
> Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:04:24 +0200, kjell ba:
>
>> Jag läser Transports tidning... det finns snart inga svenska
>> långtradarchaufförer längre.
>
> Vad menar Transports tidning med "svenska" förare? Svenska medborgare
> eller "etniska svenskar" eller vad? Bussförarna här i trakten är nog
> svenska medborgare allihop, men hälften er ut att vara födda utom
> riket. Har långtradarchaufförer sämre pröjs än bussförare? Beror det
> i så fall på att Transport har sämre avtal än Kommunal?
>
> Charlie.

Läs Transport, du kommer genast att känna dig mer uppdaterad!
Eller du nedåter dig inte till att läsa denna kollektiva
arbetartidning,
troligen inte eftersom okunnigare akademiker är svår att finna.

http://www.transport.se/home/trp2/tidn/home.nsf

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== 1 av 1 ==
Datum: Fre 3 Juni 2011 10:37
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Police: Woman Stabs 2 Outside Bloomington Library

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VIDEO


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