Wednesday 23 May 2012

[karachi-Friends] Fw: Re: {11608} مولانا آزاد کا تاریخی انٹرویو پاکستان کے بارے میں



--- On Wed, 5/23/12, syed Ahmed <qaseem39us@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: syed Ahmed <qaseem39us@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: {11608} مولانا آزاد کا تاریخی انٹرویو پاکستان کے بارے میں
To: bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 4:26 AM

 
Hamen Hindostan ke musalmanon ka aysa hi ihtiram karna chahiyye jysa ke hum Pakistani musalmanon ka ihtiram karte hain. Hamen har jagah ke musalman a'ziz hain chahe woh kisi bhi mulk main rehte hon.
 
Isi tarah ham sab insanon ko muhtaram jante hain chahe unka ta'lluq kisi bhi mulk wa millat se ho jabtak ke woh kisi doosre insan ya groh ya mulk ko nuqsan na ponhchayen.
 
COVERT  ka matlab hai chupa huwa, posheedah, makhfi. Iska matlab hai ke Hindostan main ayse khufya magazine bhi hote hain ke unke mazameen a'wam tak naheen pohunchte, toh yeh cults hi honge jo apne sab program makhfi hi rakhte hain------zahir hai ke unke maqasid naik toh ho hi naheen sakte.
 
Yeh Interview 1946 main liya gaya thha aor tab tak would be Pakistan ke khat wa khal zahir hi naheen huwe thhey ke Azad Saheb iske East aor West wings ke bare main apni shuhrah-e-aafaaq paishangoyiyan farmate huwe iss interview main paye gaye------KIYOON NAHEEN SAMAJHTE KE YEH AFTER THOUGHT INTERVIEW BA'D MAIN ZAROORAT KE MUTABIQ GHADA GAYA HAI TAAKE AZAD SAHEB KIFIRASAT KA RU'B JAME JAB KE WOH ISS QABIL BHI NA THHEY KE APNA EIMAN BACHA JAYEN AOR ALLAH KE HUKM KE MUTABIQ MUSALMAN MAREN.
 
Mausoof apni kitab "Azad ki kahani khud uski zabani" page 381 par raqam taraz hain:
 
" Walid marhoom ( Molana Khyruddin ke nihayat jayyad a'alim thhey) kaha karte thhey GUMRAHI ki maujoodah tarteeb yoon hai ke pehle wahabiyyat, phir naturiyyat, naturiyyat ke ba'd teesri qudrati manzil jo ILHAAD-E-QAT'YEE ki hai, iska woh zikr naheen karte thhey iss liye ke woh naturiyyat hi ko ilhad-e-qat'yee samajhte thhey.
 
lekin main tasleem karte huwe itna izafa karta hoon ke teesri manzil ilhad hai aor theek theek mujhey yehi paish aaya. Sir Syed Ahmed Khan ko bhi pehli manzil wahabiyyat hi paish aayi thi."
 
Readers aap iss iqtibas se kya samjhey?? Yehi na ke mausoof ko pehli manzil wahabiyyat ki paish aayee, phir naturiyyat aor teesri manzil unki ILHAAD ki thi.
 
Iss pas manzar main aap dekhen ke eik mulhid ki Hindostan ke musalmanon ke liye kya hamdardi ho sakti thhi?? Aor isi liye woh wahan ke musalmanon ke liye koyi islahi kaam na anjam de sake agarcheke woh Congress ke sadar aor shuroo' main mahkama-e-ta'leem se munsalik bhi rahe, Nehru unki qadr bhi karta thha aor unki baat bhi manta thha.
 
 


--- On Wed, 5/23/12, Abida Rahmani <abidarahmani@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Abida Rahmani <abidarahmani@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: {11608} مولانا آزاد کا تاریخی انٹرویو پاکستان کے بارے میں
To: bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 12:43 AM

جی بھائی آپ درست فرما رہے ہیں ،مجھے یہ فقرہ ہرگز نہیں لکھنا چاہئے تھا آپ لوگوں کی دلشکنی پر معذرت خواہ ہوں امید معاف فرمائینگے--






Abida Rahmani





--- On Tue, 5/22/12, Suhail Raza <smsreza30@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Suhail Raza <smsreza30@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: {11602} مولانا آزاد کا تاریخی انٹرویو پاکستان کے بارے میں
To: bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 2:05 PM

Asak,

With due apology to Ms Abida Rahamnai Saheba,

 ہمارے پاس پاکستان نہ ہوتا تو بھارتی مسلمانؤں کی طرح ہم بھی اپنے زخم چاٹ رہے ہوتے- 

These days if you mean we Indian Muslims are licking our 'wounds' by Hindus then may      I know Pakistani Muslims licking whose wounds and wounded by whom?

Suhail Reza 


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Mujeeb Khan <ideamumbai@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mohtrma Abida Saheba,
bhala aap se kis ne kah diya ke hindustani muslman apne zakham chat rahe hain...aap ki duwaon se bahut khush o khuram hain aap unki fikr na karen...Allah subhanhutalla ka hum pr bahut ehsaan hai...


From: aapka Mukhlis <aapka10@yahoo.com>
To: "bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com" <bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: {11588} مولانا آزاد کا تاریخی انٹرویو پاکستان کے بارے میں

آپ کو تو پھر بھی انگریزی آتی ہے
کچھ نہ کچھ سمجھ لیتے ہوں گے
میرے جیسے کیا کریں گے
ان کے لیے تو لازما اردو میں کوئی انتظام ہونا چاہیے

From: Mohammed Z Nadeem <nadeem1481@gmail.com>
To: bazmeqalam@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: {11581} مولانا آزاد کا تاریخی انٹرویو پاکستان کے بارے میں
Can anyone send below interview in URDU.

 
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Abida Rahmani <abidarahmani@yahoo.com> wrote:
غوث قادری صاحب
 
ہم اللہ تبارک و تعالیٰ کا جتنا شکر ادا کاریں وہ کم ہے کہ اسنے ہمیں پاکستان جیسی نعمت عطا کی ہے  اور اللہ ہمیں اس قابل بنائے کہ اس نعمت بیچ بھا کی قدر جانیں- مولانا آزاد کے جو بھی خیالات تھے
وہ اسوقت بھی متنازعا تھے اور اب بھی ہیں- اگر ہمارے پاس پاکستان نہ ہوتا تو بھارتی مسلمانؤں کی طرح ہم بھی اپنے زخم چاٹ رہے ہوتے-

Abida Rahmani



--- On Tue, 5/22/12, Ghouse Qadri <qadrighouse@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ghouse Qadri <qadrighouse@yahoo.com>
Subject: {11574} مولانا آزاد کا تاریخی انٹرویو پاکستان کے بارے میں
To: BAZMeQALAM@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 12:54 AM

 
السلام علیکم
کچھہ روز قبل کچھہ قارئین نے مولانا آزاد کی دور اندیشی اور دانش پر سوال اٹھائے تھے۔ یہ انٹرویو ان کی آنکھیں کھول دینے کیلئے کافی ہے۔
 
 
Maulana Azad interview-- worth reading and reflecting
This invaluable document has been resurrected and translated by former 
Indian union minister Arif Mohammad Khan for Covert Magazine. The 
redoubtable Maulana's predictions about what would happen if Pakistan  was
 created, have come so uncannily true that they almost read like 
newspaper headlines.
THE MAN WHO KNEW THE FUTURE
by Shorish Kashmiri, Matbooat Chattan, Lahore
Congress president Maulana Abul Kalam Azad gave the following interview to journalist Shorish Kashmiri for a Lahore based Urdu  magazine, Chattan, in April 1946. It was a time when the Cabinet Mission  was holding its proceedings in Delhi and Simla. Azad made some startling  predictions during the course of the interview, saying that religious  conflict would tear apart Pakistan and its eastern half would carve out  its own future. He even said that Pakistan's incompetent rulers might  pave the way for military rule. According to Shorish Kashmiri, Azad had  earmarked the early hours of the morning for him and the interview was  conducted over a period of two weeks. This interview has not been  published in any book so far — neither in the Azad centenary volumes nor  in any other book comprising his writing or speeches — except for  Kashmiri's own book Abul Kalam Azad, which was printed only once by  Matbooat Chattan Lahore, a now-defunct publishing house. Former Union  Cabinet Minister Arif Mohammed Khan discovered the book after searching  for many years and translated the interview for COVERTQ: The Hindu Muslim dispute has become so acute that it has foreclosed any possibility of reconciliation. Don't you think that in  this situation the birth of Pakistan has become inevitable?A: If Pakistan were the solution of Hindu Muslim problem, then I would have extended my support to it. A section of Hindu opinion is now  turning in its favour. By conceding NWFP, Sind, Balochistan and half of  Punjab on one side and half of Bengal on the other, they think they will  get the rest of India — a huge country that would be free from any  claims of communal nature. If we use the Muslim League terminology, this  new India will be a Hindu state both practically and temperamentally.  This will not happen as a result of any conscious decision, but will be  a logical consequence of its social realities. How can you expect a  society that consists 90% of Hindus, who have lived with their ethos and  values since prehistoric times, to grow differently? The factors that  laid the foundation of Islam in Indian society and created a powerful  following have become victim of the politics of partition. The communal  hatred it has generated has completely extinguished all possibilities of  spreading and preaching Islam. This communal politics has hurt the  religion beyond measure. Muslims have turned away from the Quran. If  they had taken their lessons from the Quran and the life of the Holy  Prophet and had not forged communal politics in the name of religion  then Islam's growth would not have halted. By the time of the decline of  the Mughal rule, the Muslims in India were a little over 22.5 million,  that is about 65% of the present numbers. Since then the numbers kept  increasing. If the Muslim politicians had not used the offensive  language that embittered communal relations, and the other section  acting as agents of British interests had not worked to widen the  Hindu-Muslim breach, the number of Muslims in India would have grown  higher. The political disputes we created in the name of religion have  projected Islam as an instrument of political power and not what it is —  a value system meant for the transformation of human soul. Under British  influence, we turned Islam into a confined system, and following in the  footsteps of other communities like Jews, Parsis and Hindus we  transformed ourselves into a hereditary community. The Indian Muslims  have frozen Islam and its message and divided themselves into many  sects. Some sects were clearly born at the instance of colonial power.  Consequently, these sects became devoid of all movement and dynamism and  lost faith in Islamic values. The hallmark of Muslim existence was  striving and now the very term is strange to them. Surely they are  Muslims, but they follow their own whims and desires. In fact now they  easily submit to political power, not to Islamic values. They prefer the  religion of politics not the religion of the Quran. Pakistan is a  political standpoint. Regardless of the fact whether it is the right  solution to the problems of Indian Muslims, it is being demanded in the  name of Islam. The question is when and where Islam provided for  division of territories to settle populations on the basis of belief and  unbelief. Does this find any sanction in the Quran or the traditions of  the Holy Prophet? Who among the scholars of Islam has divided the  dominion of God on this basis? If we accept this division in principle,  how shall we reconcile it with Islam as a universal system? How shall we  explain the ever growing Muslim presence in non-Muslim lands including  India? Do they realise that if Islam had approved this principle then it  would not have permitted its followers to go to the non-Muslim lands and  many ancestors of the supporters of Pakistan would not have had even  entered the fold of Islam? Division of territories on the basis of  religion is a contraption devised by Muslim League. They can pursue it  as their political agenda, but it finds no sanction in Islam or Quran.  What is the cherished goal of a devout Muslim? Spreading the light of  Islam or dividing territories along religious lines to pursue political  ambitions? The demand for Pakistan has not benefited Muslims in any  manner. How Pakistan can benefit Islam is a moot question and will  largely depend on the kind of leadership it gets. The impact of western  thought and philosophy has made the crisis more serious. The way the  leadership of Muslim League is conducting itself will ensure that Islam  will become a rare commodity in Pakistan and Muslims in India. This is a  surmise and God alone knows what is in the womb of future. Pakistan,  when it comes into existence, will face conflicts of religious nature.  As far as I can see, the people who will hold the reins of power will  cause serious damage to Islam. Their behaviour may result in the total  alienation of the Pakistani youth who may become a part of non-religious  movements. Today, in Muslim minority states the Muslim youth are more  attached to religion than in Muslim majority states. You will see that  despite the increased role of Ulema, the religion will lose its sheen in  Pakistan.
 
Q: But many Ulema are with Quaid-e-Azam [M.A. Jinnah].A: Many Ulema were with Akbare Azam too; they invented a new religion  for him. Do not discuss individuals. Our history is replete with the  doings of the Ulema who have brought humiliation and disgrace to Islam  in every age and period. The upholders of truth are exceptions. How many  of the Ulema find an honourable mention in the Muslim history of the  last 1,300 years? There was one Imam Hanbal, one Ibn Taimiyya. In India  we remember no Ulema except Shah Waliullah and his family. The courage  of Alf Sani is beyond doubt, but those who filled the royal office with  complaints against him and got him imprisoned were also Ulema. Where are  they now? Does anybody show any respect to them?
 Q: Maulana, what is wrong if Pakistan becomes a reality? After all,  "Islam" is being used to pursue and protect the unity of the community.  A: You are using the name of Islam for a cause that is not right by  Islamic standards. Muslim history bears testimony to many such  enormities. In the battle of Jamal [fought between Imam Ali and Hadrat  Aisha, widow of the Holy Prophet] Qurans were displayed on lances. Was  that right? In Karbala the family members of the Holy Prophet were  martyred by those Muslims who claimed companionship of the Prophet. Was  that right? Hajjaj was a Muslim general and he subjected the holy mosque  at Makka to brutal attack. Was that right? No sacred words can justify  or sanctify a false motive. If Pakistan was right for Muslims then I would have supported it. But  I see clearly the dangers inherent in the demand. I do not expect people  to follow me, but it is not possible for me to go against the call of my  conscience. People generally submit either to coercion or to the lessons  of their experience. Muslims will not hear anything against Pakistan  unless they experience it. Today they can call white black, but they  will not give up Pakistan. The only way it can be stopped now is either  for the government not to concede it or for Mr Jinnah himself — if he  agrees to some new proposal.  Now as I gather from the attitude of my own colleagues in the working  committee, the division of India appears to be certain. But I must warn  that the evil consequences of partition will not affect India alone,  Pakistan will be equally haunted by them. The partition will be based on  the religion of the population and not based on any natural barrier like  mountain, desert or river. A line will be drawn; it is difficult to say  how durable it would be.  We must remember that an entity conceived in hatred will last only as long as that hatred lasts. This hatred will overwhelm the relations  between India and Pakistan. In this situation it will not be possible  for India and Pakistan to become friends and live amicably unless some  catastrophic event takes place. The politics of partition itself will  act as a barrier between the two countries. It will not be possible for  Pakistan to accommodate all the Muslims of India, a task beyond her  territorial capability. On the other hand, it will not be possible for  the Hindus to stay especially in West Pakistan. They will be thrown out  or leave on their own. This will have its repercussions in India and the  Indian Muslims will have three options before them:  1. They become victims of loot and brutalities and migrate to  Pakistan; but how many Muslims can find shelter there?  2. They become subject to murder and other excesses. A substantial number of Muslims will pass through this ordeal until the bitter  memories of partition are forgotten and the generation that had lived  through it completes its natural term.  3. A good number of Muslims, haunted by poverty, political wilderness  and regional depredation decide to renounce Islam.  The prominent Muslims who are supporters of Muslim League will leave  for Pakistan. The wealthy Muslims will take over the industry and  business and monopolise the economy of Pakistan. But more than 30  million Muslims will be left behind in India. What promise Pakistan  holds for them? The situation that will arise after the expulsion of  Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan will be still more dangerous for them.  Pakistan itself will be afflicted by many serious problems. The greatest  danger will come from international powers who will seek to control the  new country, and with the passage of time this control will become  tight. India will have no problem with this outside interference as it  will sense danger and hostility from Pakistan. The other important point that has escaped Mr Jinnah's attention is Bengal. He does not know that Bengal disdains outside leadership and  rejects it sooner or later. During World War II, Mr Fazlul Haq revolted  against Jinnah and was thrown out of the Muslim League. Mr H.S.  Suhrawardy does not hold Jinnah in high esteem. Why only Muslim League,  look at the history of Congress. The revolt of Subhas Chandra Bose is  known to all. Gandhiji was not happy with the presidentship of Bose and  turned the tide against him by going on a fast unto death at Rajkot.  Subhas Bose rose against Gandhiji and disassociated himself from the  Congress. The environment of Bengal is such that it disfavours  leadership from outside and rises in revolt when it senses danger to its  rights and interests.  The confidence of East Pakistan will not erode as long as Jinnah and Liaquat Ali are alive. But after them any small incident will create  resentment and disaffection. I feel that it will not be possible for  East Pakistan to stay with West Pakistan for any considerable period of  time. There is nothing common between the two regions except that they  call themselves Muslims. But the fact of being Muslim has never created  durable political unity anywhere in the world. The Arab world is before  us; they subscribe to a common religion, a common civilisation and  culture and speak a common language. In fact they acknowledge even  territorial unity. But there is no political unity among them. Their  systems of government are different and they are often engaged in mutual  recrimination and hostility. On the other hand, the language, customs  and way of life of East Pakistan are totally different from West  Pakistan. The moment the creative warmth of Pakistan cools down, the  contradictions will emerge and will acquire assertive overtones. These  will be fuelled by the clash of interests of international powers and  consequently both wings will separate. After the separation of East  Pakistan, whenever it happens, West Pakistan will become the  battleground of regional contradictions and disputes. The assertion of  sub-national identities of Punjab, Sind, Frontier and Balochistan will  open the doors for outside interference. It will not be long before the  international powers use the diverse elements of Pakistani political  leadership to break the country on the lines of Balkan and Arab states.  Maybe at that stage we will ask ourselves, what have we gained and what  have we lost. The real issue is economic development and progress, it certainly is not religion. Muslim business leaders have doubts about their own  ability and competitive spirit. They are so used to official patronage  and favours that they fear new freedom and liberty. They advocate the  two-nation theory to conceal their fears and want to have a Muslim state  where they have the monopoly to control the economy without any  competition from competent rivals. It will be interesting to watch how  long they can keep this deception alive.  I feel that right from its inception, Pakistan will face some very  serious problems: 1. The incompetent political leadership will pave the way for military dictatorship as it has happened in many Muslim countries. 2. The heavy burden of foreign debt. 3. Absence of friendly relationship with neighbours and the possibility of armed conflict.  4. Internal unrest and regional conflicts.  5. The loot of national wealth by the neo-rich and industrialists of  Pakistan. 6. The apprehension of class war as a result of exploitation by the neo-rich. 7. The dissatisfaction and alienation of the youth from religion and the collapse of the theory of Pakistan.  8. The conspiracies of the international powers to control Pakistan.
 In this situation, the stability of Pakistan will be under strain and  the Muslim countries will be in no position to provide any worthwhile  help. The assistance from other sources will not come without strings  and it will force both ideological and territorial compromises.
Q: But the question is how Muslims can keep their community identity intact and how they can inculcate the attributes of the citizens of a  Muslim state.A: Hollow words cannot falsify the basic realities nor slanted questions can make the answers deficient. It amounts to distortion of  the discourse. What is meant by community identity? If this community  identity has remained intact during the British slavery, how will it  come under threat in a free India in whose affairs Muslims will be equal  participants? What attributes of the Muslim state you wish to cultivate?  The real issue is the freedom of faith and worship and who can put a cap  on that freedom. Will independence reduce the 90 million Muslims into  such a helpless state that they will feel constrained in enjoying their  religious freedom? If the British, who as a world power could not snatch  this liberty, what magic or power do the Hindus have to deny this  freedom of religion? These questions have been raised by those, who,  under the influence of western culture, have renounced their own  heritage and are now raising dust through political gimmickry. Muslim history is an important part of Indian history. Do you think the Muslim kings were serving the cause of Islam? They had a nominal  relationship with Islam; they were not Islamic preachers. Muslims of  India owe their gratitude to Sufis, and many of these divines were  treated by the kings very cruelly. Most of the kings created a large  band of Ulema who were an obstacle in the path of the propagation of  Islamic ethos and values. Islam, in its pristine form, had a tremendous  appeal and in the first century won the hearts and minds of a large  number of people living in and around Hejaz. But the Islam that came to  India was different, the carriers were non-Arabs and the real spirit was  missing. Still, the imprint of the Muslim period is writ large on the  culture, music, art, architecture and languages of India. What do the  cultural centres of India, like Delhi and Lucknow, represent? The  underlying Muslim spirit is all too obvious. If the Muslims still feel under threat and believe that they will be reduced to slavery in free India then I can only pray for their faith  and hearts. If a man becomes disenchanted with life he can be helped to  revival, but if someone is timid and lacks courage, then it is not  possible to help him become brave and gutsy. The Muslims as a community  have become cowards. They have no fear of God, instead they fear men.  This explains why they are so obsessed with threats to their existence —  a figment of their imagination. After British takeover, the government committed all possible excesses against the Muslims. But Muslims did not cease to exist. On the  contrary, they registered a growth that was more than average. The  Muslim cultural ethos and values have their own charm. Then India has  large Muslim neighbours on three sides. Why on earth the majority in  this country will be interested to wipe out the Muslims? How will it  promote their self interests? Is it so easy to finish 90 million people?  In fact, Muslim culture has such attraction that I shall not be  surprised if it comes to have the largest following in free India. The world needs both, a durable peace and a philosophy of life. If the Hindus can run after Marx and undertake scholarly studies of the  philosophy and wisdom of the West, they do not disdain Islam and will be  happy to benefit from its principles. In fact they are more familiar  with Islam and acknowledge that Islam does not mean parochialism of a  hereditary community or a despotic system of governance. Islam is a  universal call to establish peace on the basis of human equality. They  know that Islam is the proclamation of a Messenger who calls to the  worship of God and not his own worship. Islam means freedom from all  social and economic discriminations and reorganisation of society on  three basic principles of God-consciousness, righteous action and  knowledge. In fact, it is we Muslims and our extremist behaviour that  has created an aversion among non-Muslims for Islam. If we had not  allowed our selfish ambitions to soil the purity of Islam then many  seekers of truth would have found comfort in the bosom of Islam.  Pakistan has nothing to do with Islam; it is a political demand that is  projected by Muslim League as the national goal of Indian Muslims. I  feel it is not the solution to the problems Muslims are facing. In fact  it is bound to create more problems. The Holy Prophet has said, "God has made the whole earth a mosque for  me." Now do not ask me to support the idea of the partition of a mosque.  If the nine-crore Muslims were thinly scattered all over India, and  demand was made to reorganise the states in a manner to ensure their  majority in one or two regions, that was understandable. Again such a  demand would not have been right from an Islamic viewpoint, but  justifiable on administrative grounds. But the situation, as it exists,  is drastically different. All the border states of India have Muslim  majorities sharing borders with Muslim countries. Tell me, who can  eliminate these populations? By demanding Pakistan we are turning our  eyes away from the history of the last 1,000 years and, if I may use the  League terminology, throwing more than 30 million Muslims into the lap  of "Hindu Raj". The Hindu Muslim problem that has created political  tension between Congress and League will become a source of dispute  between the two states and with the aid of international powers this may  erupt into full scale war anytime in future. The question is often raised that if the idea of Pakistan is so fraught with dangers for the Muslims, why is it being opposed by the  Hindus? I feel that the opposition to the demand is coming from two  quarters. One is represented by those who genuinely feel concerned about  imperial machinations and strongly believe that a free, united India  will be in a better position to defend itself. On the other hand, there  is a section who opposes Pakistan with the motive to provoke Muslims to  become more determined in their demand and thus get rid of them. Muslims  have every right to demand constitutional safeguards, but partition of  India cannot promote their interests. The demand is the politically  incorrect solution of a communal problem. In future India will be faced with class problems, not communal disputes; the conflict will be between capital and labour. The communist  and socialist movements are growing and it is not possible to ignore  them. These movements will increasingly fight for the protection of the  interest of the underclass. The Muslim capitalists and the feudal  classes are apprehensive of this impending threat. Now they have given  this whole issue a communal colour and have turned the economic issue  into a religious dispute. But Muslims alone are not responsible for it.  This strategy was first adopted by the British government and then  endorsed by the political minds of Aligarh. Later, Hindu  short-sightedness made matters worse and now freedom has become  contingent on the partition of India. Jinnah himself was an ambassador of Hindu-Muslim unity. In one Congress session Sarojini Naidu had commended him with this title. He  was a disciple of Dadabhai Naoroji. He had refused to join the 1906  deputation of Muslims that initiated communal politics in India. In 1919  he stood firmly as a nationalist and opposed Muslim demands before the  Joint Select Committee. On 3 October 1925, in a letter to the Times of  India he rubbished the suggestion that Congress is a Hindu outfit. In  the All Parties Conferences of 1925 and 1928, he strongly favoured a  joint electorate. While speaking at the National Assembly in 1925, he  said, "I am a nationalist first and a nationalist last" and exhorted his  colleagues, be they Hindus or Muslims, "not to raise communal issues in  the House and help make the Assembly a national institution in the  truest sense of the term". In 1928, Jinnah supported the Congress call to boycott Simon Commission. Till 1937, he did not favour the demand to partition India.  In his message to various student bodies he stressed the need to work  for Hindu Muslim unity. But he felt aggrieved when the Congress formed  governments in seven states and ignored the Muslim League. In 1940 he  decided to pursue the partition demand to check Muslim political  decline. In short, the demand for Pakistan is his response to his own  political experiences. Mr Jinnah has every right to his opinion about  me, but I have no doubts about his intelligence. As a politician he has  worked overtime to fortify Muslim communalism and the demand for  Pakistan. Now it has become a matter of prestige for him and he will not  give it up at any cost.
 
 Q: It is clear that Muslims are not going to turn away from their demand for Pakistan. Why have they become so impervious to all reason  and logic of arguments?A: It is difficult, rather impossible, to fight against the misplaced enthusiasm of a mob, but to suppress one's conscience is worse than  death. Today the Muslims are not walking, they are flowing. The problem  is that Muslims have not learnt to walk steady; they either run or flow  with the tide. When a group of people lose confidence and self-respect,  they are surrounded by imaginary doubts and dangers and fail to make a  distinction between the right and the wrong. The true meaning of life is  realised not through numerical strength but through firm faith and  righteous action. British politics has sown many seeds of fear and  distrust in the mental field of Muslims. Now they are in a frightful  state, bemoaning the departure of the British and demanding partition  before the foreign masters leave. Do they believe that partition will  avert all the dangers to their lives and bodies? If these dangers are  real then they will still haunt their borders and any armed conflict  will result in much greater loss of lives and possessions.Q: But Hindus and Muslims are two different nations with different  and disparate inclinations. How can the unity between the two be achieved?A: This is an obsolete debate. I have seen the correspondence between Allama Iqbal and Maulana Husain Ahmad Madni on the subject. In the Quran  the term qaum has been used not only for the community of believers but  has also been used for distinct human groupings generally. What do we  wish to achieve by raising this debate about the etymological scope of  terms like millat [community], qaum [nation] and ummat [group]? In  religious terms India is home to many people — the Hindus, Muslims,  Christians, Parsis, Sikhs etc. The differences between Hindu religion  and Islam are vast in scope. But these differences cannot be allowed to  become an obstacle in the path of India gaining her freedom nor do the  two distinct and different systems of faith negate the idea of unity of  India. The issue is of our national independence and how we can secure  it. Freedom is a blessing and is the right of every human being. It  cannot be divided on the basis of religion. Muslims must realise that they are bearers of a universal message. They are not a racial or regional grouping in whose territory others  cannot enter. Strictly speaking, Muslims in India are not one community;  they are divided among many well-entrenched sects. You can unite them by  arousing their anti-Hindu sentiment but you cannot unite them in the  name of Islam. To them Islam means undiluted loyalty to their own sect.  Apart from Wahabi, Sunni and Shia there are innumerable groups who owe  allegiance to different saints and divines. Small issues like raising  hands during the prayer and saying Amen loudly have created disputes  that defy solution. The Ulema have used the instrument of takfeer  [fatwas declaring someone as infidel] liberally. Earlier, they used to  take Islam to the disbelievers; now they take away Islam from the  believers. Islamic history is full of instances of how good and pious  Muslims were branded kafirs. Prophets alone had the capability to cope  with these mindboggling situations. Even they had to pass through times  of afflictions and trials. The fact is that when reason and intelligence  are abandoned and attitudes become fossilised then the job of the  reformer becomes very difficult. But today the situation is worse than ever. Muslims have become firm in their communalism; they prefer politics to religion and follow their  worldly ambitions as commands of religion. History bears testimony to  the fact that in every age we ridiculed those who pursued the good with  consistency, snuffed out the brilliant examples of sacrifice and tore  the flags of selfless service. Who are we, the ordinary mortals; even  high ranking Prophets were not spared by these custodians of traditions  and customs.
 
Q: You closed down your journal Al-Hilal a long time back. Was it due  to your disappointment with the Muslims who were wallowing in  intellectual desolation, or did you feel like proclaiming azan [call to  prayer] in a barren desert?A: I abandoned Al-Hilal not because I had lost faith in its truth. This journal created great awareness among a large section of Muslims.  They renewed their faith in Islam, in human freedom and in consistent  pursuit of righteous goals. In fact my own life was greatly enriched by  this experience and I felt like those who had the privilege of learning  under the companionship of the Messenger of God. My own voice entranced  me and under its impact I burnt out like a phoenix. Al-Hilal had served  its purpose and a new age was dawning. Based on my experiences, I made a  reappraisal of the situation and decided to devote all my time and  energy for the attainment of our national freedom. I was firm in my  belief that freedom of Asia and Africa largely depends on India's  freedom and Hindu Muslim unity is key to India's freedom. Even before  the First World War, I had realised that India was destined to attain  freedom, and no power on earth would be able to deny it. I was also  clear in my mind about the role of Muslims. I ardently wished that  Muslims would learn to walk together with their countrymen and not give  an opportunity to history to say that when Indians were fighting for  their independence, Muslims were looking on as spectators. Let nobody  say that instead of fighting the waves they were standing on the banks  and showing mirth on the drowning of boats carrying the freedom fighters  [?].

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