From: Sword of Allah <sword.of.allah.313@gmail.com>
Date: 2012/2/18
Subject: Refuting GF HADDAD : Ya Shaykh Madad Istighatha or Istiana Part !
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This article is refutation of GF Haddad who is extreme sufi, he tried to ask help from dead saints and Prophets (Peace be upon them), The article of Haddad can be found here
http://www.sunnah.org/aqida/madad.htm
G Haddad said
Al-Madad = "Help!"
This Madad was asked by Musa ('alaihi al salaam) from his countryman with the wordistaghaatha "he asked for help" (28:15)
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This is whole ayah
(15. And he entered the city when its people were unaware: and he found there two men fighting, -- one of his party, and the other of his foes. The man of his (own) party asked him for help against his foe, so Musa struck him with his fist and he died. He said: "This is of Shaytan's doing, verily, he is a plain misleading enemy.'') (16. He said: "My Lord! Verily, I have wronged myself, so forgive me.'' Then He forgave him. Verily, He is the Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful.)
Commetary of Ibn e Kathir
(and the other of his foes.) meaning, a Coptic. This was the view of Ibn `Abbas, Qatadah, As-Suddi and Muhammad bin Ishaq. The Israelite man asked Musa, peace be upon him, for help, and Musa took advantage of the fact that people were not paying attention, so he went to the Coptic man and
(so Musa struck him with his fist and he died.) Mujahid said, "This means he punched him with his fist.'' And then he died.
(He said) refers to Musa.
("This is of Shaytan's doing, verily, he is a plain misleading enemy.'' He said: "My Lord! Verily, I have wronged myself, so forgive me.'' Then He forgave him. Verily, He is the Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful. He said: "My Lord! For that with which You have favored me,)meaning, `what You have given me of prestige, power and blessings -- '(END)
Comment: If someone ask help from a powerful man to help him in fighting no one will ever say this is shirk. Also Moosa AS was present their and was passing around from there how on earth Haddad proved asking from those auliyah who left this world from this verse??
Gf Haddad Said
and by Dhul-Qarnayan using the term "help me" in Surat al-Kahf (a`eenuni) (18:95) which is the same root as "we turn for help" (nasta`een) in the Fatiha.
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This is the context
(93. Until, when he reached between two mountains, he found before them a people who scarcely understood a word.) (94. They said: "O Dhul-Qarnayn! Verily, Ya'juj and Ma'juj are doing great mischief in the land. Shall we then pay you a tribute in order that you might erect a barrier between us and them'') (95. He said: "That in which my Lord had established me is better. So help me with strength, I will erect between you and them a barrier.'') (96. "Give me Zubar of iron;'' then, when he had filled up the gap between the two mountain-cliffs, he said: "Blow;'' then when he had made them (red as) fire, he said: "Bring me Qitran to pour over them.'')
Comment: Here one can see he was asking help not from dead nor asking help with the belief that the people to whom he is asking can hear , know and see all your needs and prayers and not even single SAHABa and salaf and mufassireen proved asking from dead and auliyah from this ayah.He was just asking Zubrah,
Meaning of Zubrah (Commentary of Ibn e Kathir)
Zubrah which means pieces or chunks of something. This was the view of Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid and Qatadah. These pieces were like bricks or blocks, and it was said that each block weighed one Damascene Qintar or more.(end)
And even if today someone ask pieces of chunks from someone no one will say you are doing shirk.Haddad presented only these two irrelevant ayahs then he went on and quoted ahadith and said
Haddad Said
Following are proofs from the Sunna for calling out to an invisible helper in a situation of need:
1. Al-Bukhari narrates in his Sahih that our mother Hajar, when she was running in search of water between Safa and Marwa, heard a voice and called out: "O you whose voice you have made me hear! If there is a ghawth (help/helper) with you (then help me)!" and an angel appeared at the spot of the spring of Zamzam.
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The context of hadith
Bukhari Book of Prophets no: 55 Volume 4, Number 583: Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka'ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers:
'O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.' (14.37)
Ishmael's mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had).
When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him (i.e. Ishmael) tossing in agony; She left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of Safa was the nearest mountain to her on that land. She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from Safa and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached the Marwa mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She repeated that (running between Safa and Marwa) seven times."
The Prophet said, "This is the source of the tradition of the walking of people between them (i.e. Safa and Marwa). When she reached the Marwa (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, 'O, (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?" And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zam-zam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hand in this way, and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it."
The Prophet added, "May Allah bestow Mercy on Ishmael's mother! Had she let the Zam-zam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zam-zam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth." The Prophet further added, "Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, 'Don't be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allah which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allah never neglects His people…….
Points to be noted are
1. Ibraheem Aleh salam Invoked Only ALLAH, which is a proof that One should Invoke like Ibraheem Aleh salam, this hadeeth is proof against GF Haddad.
2. He faced the Ka'ba, raising both hands(not facing any grave of wali and Prophet)
3. This is the supplication (and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks)
4. ALLAH sent an angel
5 When Hajirah RA Heard an angle's voice then she asked herself to be quiet
6 She heard the voice again to confirm and then she said ,( 'O, (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?")
7. The helper was an angel not any dead wali
Comment: after reading this beautiful hadith, no one will conclude by saying this hadith is an evidence for asking help from dead. Plus not a single salaf (Righteous Predecessor) said you can ask help from dead wali and they provided this hadith as an evidence.
Gf Haddad quoted three narrations
2. Abu Ya`la, Ibn al-Sunni, and al-Tabarani in al-Mu`jam al-Kabir narrated that the Prophet (Sall Allahu 'alaihi wa Aalihi wasallam ) said: "If one of you loses something or seeks help or a helper (ghawth), and he is in a land where there is no one to befriend, let him say: "O servants of Allah, help me! (ya `ibad Allah, aghithuni), for verily Allah has servants whom one does not see." Al-Haythami said in Majma` al-Zawa'id (10:132): "The men in its chain of transmission have been declared reliable despite weakness in one of them."
3. Al-Bayhaqi narrates on the authority of Ibn `Abbas in "Kitab al-Aadaab" (p. 436) and with a second chain mawquf from Ibn `Abbas in "Shu`ab al-Iman" (1:445-446=1:183 #167; 6:128 #7697) and a third from Ibn Mas`ud in "Hayat al-Anbiya' ba`da Wafatihim" p. 44: "Allah has angels on the earth - other than the [two] record-keepers - who keep a record [even] of the leaves that fall on the ground. Therefore, if one of you is crippled in a deserted land where no-one is in sight, let him cry out: a'înû 'ibâd Allâh rahimakum Allâh, 'Help, O servants of Allah, may Allah have mercy on you!' Verily he shall be helped, if God wills."
4. Ibn Abi Shayba relates in his "Musannaf" (7:103) from Aban ibn Salih that the Prophet (saws) said: "If one of you loses his animal or his camel in a deserted land where there is no-one in sight, let him say: "O servants of Allah, help me! (yâ 'ibâd Allâh a'înûnî), for verily he will be helped."
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Before commenting on chain of these narrations one can see by this very translation of haddad that it says
Prophet (Sall Allahu 'alaihi wa Aalihi wasallam ) said: "If one of you loses something or seeks help or a helper (ghawth), and he is in a land where there is no one to befriend,
This is exceptional case unlike those who ask help from SHAYKH ABDUL QADIR JEELANI RA by saying YA GHAWTH AL ADHAM madad(help) (in their homes and masaajid) but this hadeeth is talking about where he is in a land where there is no one to befriend This itself is refuting their ideology
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